If I understand correctly, projects don’t usually update their pipelines midway through production... I think some large projects take 1 to 3 years to make and choosing an app like SI or the competition at this moment of time that may or may not be on par to SI will still make a competitive product finished in 1 to 3 years from now.. maybe even a longer 5 year project and still be competitive. Till that studio finishes that product or series of products in that timeframe before updating their pipeline – it would makes sense to still use whatever you use for the pipeline today into the future without having to deal with development bugs and broken files with subsequent updates. I know studios still in windows 7, studios still with previous versions of Blender for stability sake, I know studios animating in older versions of Maya due to mid-production deadlines, I know studios using the old version of Fusion, even studios with old software, scripts, plugins, workflows that only run on old architecture. And they stick to it till the production is over. And that takes time.
You could start a 5 year project in SI 2015 today and still be competitive, with less staff, less training, greater flexibility and standard industry tools. Students learning the standard tools today will understand SI easily till 5 years from now, when they graduate the tool will still be standard from their education. Get the drift? Unless they revamp the animation toolset in the public sector any time soon - like Presto in Pixar or something – it’s still on par for any new project till up to 5 years from now. I think SI has a great studio workflow still that works well today as any other day with any other software, if not better. Taking that workflow now will still be relevant or better than taking another now and finishing that project 1 to 5 years later with the same (or less experienced, still developing) pipeline. I think people are like... imagining revolutionary software updates over the next 5 to 10 years and an industry and pipeline jumping on board immediately leaving you in the dust like some kind of stone pyramid with no use. I somewhat doubt Moores Law applies to computer graphics – unless you are more into games, and even that is mostly software agnostic these days and also develops slowly. Things take time to adapt.. Why hurry? Use what makes you and your studio happy. And yes, invest in Fabric, Redshift and people like Mootz! I’d be down to invest in developing even new ICE stuff, education, Fabric examples, anything really, etc. Do what you love with what you love. -Draise From: Jonathan Moore<mailto:jonathan.moo...@gmail.com> Sent: 25 January 2017 08:18 To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: No -seriously, why don´t we GUMROAD for Softimage? I have two views here. For personal work, I will continue to use XSI as long as it functions with my operating system. But I could never advise a studio of 3 or more artists to base their business model on an XSI based pipeline for all the reasons that Jordi Bares mentioned in a similar thread just before Xmas. If there's anyone with the technical knowhow and willingness to pump some new blood into XSI, I'd say it's Eric Mootz. If people are serious about crowdfunding some enhancements, Eric would be a good man to sound out. The fact that he's now a part of the Fabric Engine team is a bonus as FE is just the sort of tool that could be leveraged to enhance XSI from its frozen state (2015 SP2). On 25 January 2017 at 12:09, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com<mailto:facialdel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Amen to that Marcus :) Everything that will give me news that SI and its community is still alive and doing "stuff" is GOOD. Le 25 janv. 2017 13:03, "Mirko Jankovic" <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com<mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>> a écrit : Are you working directly for client creating animated and CG content? Do they care what are you using to create it as long as it is done at quality level and on time? A lot of people will find them self in this situation and moving to anything any time soon would be probably killing for their business. So each to his own POV and needs. [https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=abWlya29qLmFuaW1hdG9yQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=dc54bee0-9c4f-4e48-8cbc-bdcd53d27933]ᐧ On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Markus Cermak <cer...@leiss.at<mailto:cer...@leiss.at>> wrote: Just to give a different POV I would be very happy to support and pay for features added to Softimage. I know that a lot ppl say its time to move on Softimage is dead etc. but not all of us are working in a big Studio or as Freelancers. So for us as a small studio Softimage is still and will be for a long time the best tool for our Jobs. Which span from 1 day to a couple of days deadlines. There is nothing out there which can replace Softimage atm period. So all I´m saying is plz don´t only put your POV on the subject and tell ppl to move on because, there is still enough life in Softimage for me and a few others. So I would be willing to pay for development for a few features or even workflow improvements (scripts,etc) and that would add a lot more value do my work then switching DCC. So even most of you thing the thoughts behind it are admirable, but not worth it I think it is worth it. cheers markus Am 25/01/2017 um 12:22 schrieb Rob Wuijster: Although I like what you're trying to do, it's not really a viable option imho. I know we're all (still) reluctant to move on, but at some point we have to admit Softimage is falling behind the curve. Despite it's great workflow and ease of use. Not to mention the rapid decline of Softimage related jobs that are out there. Which is even more important a factor for a freelancer. Over here there's - afaik - only one post studio left using Softimage, and that will probably change in the near future. So to be able to pay the bills, clinging on to Softimage for post-production related work isn't an option for a lot of people. With the above, there are basically two options, one is Maya, the other Houdini. Maya isn't that bad to switch to, it has become better with the latest releases workflow wise. And it more or less behaves the same as Softimage in many ways. Houdini is a different beast, and will take some serious getting used to due to the node based and procedural innards, but will give you tons of freedom to play with. So, like I said, the thoughts behind it are admirable, but it might be time to start looking at something else for future developments. Rob \/-------------\/----------------\/ On 24-1-2017 21:11, Pierre Schiller wrote: Gum"road" to: * Someone developing PBR viewport (an addon using Py, maybe with new Nvidia cuda .dlls?) * Someone developing custom libraries (so every time something Open Source comes up it can be implemented through). I know I would join a patreon or gumroad for that. Because, and excuse me, Open source blender -addon maddness- it´s a chimera (everyone developing at the same time, so many new things because no one holds the "fryer by the handles"! (no one filters what´s really necessary for the application to grow healthy)... If that´s what´s going on on an Open source environment (and yes, organization leads to neatness and efficiency), I´d much rather join Gumroad or Patreon for anyone who´s willingly able to code what´s mentioned on this thread. Just and idea....just...an idea.. 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