Honestly I can't even say "come back in 3 years." That's basically what I
said 3 years ago. If it was still Luxology and not The Foundry, then maybe.
But at this point things are dragging on and getting a bit long in the
tooth. I don't want to go ranting. All I can say is I still can't recommend
Modo as a production backbone app with the kinds of productions I know are
done by folks here.

-Tim


On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:47 PM Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I (alongside Tim Crowson from this list) have been a long term beta tester
for Modo, so I'll shoot from the hip here. I think Tim shares many of my
own thoughts and impressions and I'm sure he'll pipe in if there's any
aspects he disagrees with.

First the good part, Modo remains as it's ever been the best direct
modelling package on earth! A mighty claim but I think it's well deserved.
Only recently the team at ILM used Modo for all of their kit-bashing on
Star Wars 'Rogue One'. And to build on it's strengths as a direct modeller,
Foundry moved to an incremental development strategy for the 10 series and
Modo has now managed to remedy that equally deserved reputation of being
the most unstable DCC money can buy. They're looking to carry on with this
incremental development approach going forward to help ensure big new
features aren't partnered with a stability nosedive.

Now comes the downside, once you go past Modo's core strengths as an asset
creation tool due to it's great modelling texturing and rendering workflows
(once you submit to the shader tree approach!), it barely scratches the
surface of what's required for a pipeline animation toolset. Now that
stability has been fixed, animation and solid pipeline credentials are the
next target. There's so much to be remedied here it's going to be a number
of years before it's even ready for consideration.

If you can afford the luxury of using Modo strictly for its asset creation
strengths, it's a great weapon to have in your armoury. If you're looking
for an XSI replacement, come back in three years.

On 16 February 2017 at 21:15, Eugene Flormata <eug...@flormata.com> wrote:

for people who transitioned to modo
how's the stability in that program? I bought modo indie on steam when it
was on sale with the idea to learn it on the side,
but I barely got to use it. was still getting used to maya which i use at
work. which although I like the tools. everything like explode for reasons
I couldn't figure out.

my plan is to jump on the houdini wagon come the new apprenctice, then jump
on indie and learn that till I'm comfortable enough to get work to buy full
licenses.
I hope it's stable


On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Below

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On 16 Feb 2017, at 18:47, phil harbath <phil.harb...@jamination.com> wrote:

I am very curious on how people feel about houdini’s character animation
tools.  I am reluctant to move on from Softimage until there is something
out there that is at least close to being on par with it.


It is pretty similar and although you will miss a few things (like the
mixer) you will get others (like muscles, advanced rigging, chops,...)

Don't worry and give it a go

Specifically the Shape Manager, non-destructive weights, and the animation
mixer really help me get the job done, and when it comes to the negative
things I hear about Maya it has kept me from making the leap in that
direction even though I theoretically own 2 copies,  I really am hoping
that Houdini is close because I really only want to make a change once.


Shape management you do it out of the box through nodal workflow. Not as
slick but more powerful.

Non-destructive is the name of the game.

No mixer but you have animation layers (although a bit wonky)

Rigging is way way better in Houdini

Hope it helps

Jb


thanks

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