> On 22 Feb 2017, at 16:00, Tim Bolland <tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm going to echo that sentiment, if I'm just building a mesh or character > like I would in say Softimage by pulling points and editing topology. At some > point I don't want these edits to be live and I would freeze it down to the > raw point data. Much faster to work
You just described the normal issue, having things live is slower… freezing is there to keep inside the scene that data in static form… exactly like locking the asset or saving to disk. The later has the benefit that your scene will e super fast to load/transfer… hello cloud rendering!! > with and there's no messy construction history. Nothing stops you from put it in a safe place so you don’t see it or delete it if you want although soon enough you will realise it is better to just live it there. > Heck I sometimes even freeze ICE clouds if I really just need point positions. Same thing. > I realise that you can lock in Houdini, but does this just cache the whole > tree above with all it's inputs still theoretically available? No, just the result of the “cook”, so it is just the end result of the network up to that point. > If so then is the only way to recreate the Softimage freeze is to export then > import the geo? It is more efficient… imagine you save to disk a result of a long process that is 1Gb… and you have 100 versions of the scene. If you save to disk you use 1Gb on disk… If you lock you save 100 times 1Gb on disk… :-) > Surely they can add functionality for this without having to write a script. The point is that you won’t want to freeze like you do in soft, it really does not make sense in Houdini world. I hope it helps jb > > Tim > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>> on behalf of Paulo Cesar > Duarte <paulocdua...@gmail.com <mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com>> > Sent: 22 February 2017 15:44 > To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list> > Subject: Re: Soft to Houdini custom shelf / scripts. > > Yes, I perfectly understand the procedural approach, but over the last years > Houdini is getting better and better in interface and modeling tools, they > are trying to make a complete 3d tool set in all areas, so the idea is use > Houdini for all tasks, not only import things from Maya and make simulations, > lets say that I want modeling a complete character or vehicle inside Houdini, > I would end up with a hundred of SOP nodes. > Houdini is an amazing software, I just don't understand why I can't collapse > nodes, I think every DCC can do that, simplify things when necessary. > > For now I'm going to lock the node and delete the network upstream when > necessary, thanks for the tip. > > 2017-02-22 7:00 GMT-03:00 Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com > <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>>: > You don’t really want to, it is one of those things that will challenge you > at first and the you will see how much better is this appraoch. > > Regardless of my opinion, if you want to collapse in the sense of Softimage, > lock the node and delete the network upstream.. that is effectively the same. > > jb > >> On 20 Feb 2017, at 21:44, Paulo Cesar Duarte <paulocdua...@gmail.com >> <mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Olivier and Andy, nice tip. >> So there is no other way to just collapse everything? I find it's a little >> strange that I can't do a true modeling collapse, the better way I find is >> export .obj and import again. >> >> >> >> 2017-02-20 18:36 GMT-03:00 Andy Goehler <lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com >> <mailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com>>: >> Be advised, this will increase your file size. A lock on a node is >> essentially caching at that node. >> If you must, I’d advised to collapse to subnets. >> >> Andy >> >> >>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 10:30 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:facialdel...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Ctrl click on the red (left side of the node (not the yellow) ) This will >>> lock the node like a "freeze". Everything above is computed and "locked". >>> >>> 2017-02-20 22:19 GMT+01:00 Paulo Cesar Duarte <paulocdua...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com>>: >>> Hey Pierre and Ed... >>> I'm starting with Houdini too, just studying SOP for now. >>> There is a simple way to freeze modeling like XSI? Without the need of >>> caching geometry, just freezing or collapse? >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> 2017-02-10 19:48 GMT-02:00 Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>>: >>> A few thoughts of mine.. hope you don’t mind poking at those suggestions… >>> >>>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 20:11, Ed Schiffer <edschif...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:edschif...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> hi Tim >>>> I am just starting in Houdini as well and would be interested in a XSI >>>> Shelf tools. >>> >>> Good idea >>> >>>> for these particular issues you mentioned, you could match the Translate, >>>> Rotate, Scale and or Pivot using the icons on the right of these >>>> parameters. very useful! >>> >>> You have matching of transformations but may be I could put together a few >>> Softimage friendly ones too… >>> >>>> and on the Modify shelft tab you have the Center Pivot button as well. >>> >>> You may not want that, I rather suggest you install qLib and you will have >>> a bunch of presets installed on normal translation nodes that allow you to >>> do the centroid quickly, also placing in the center of the world, on the >>> floor, etc... >>> >>>> also, under the Pre-Transform dropdown at the top of the Transforms tab, >>>> you have Clean Transforms/Translate/Rotate/Scale with for my understanding >>>> are basic as the Freeze in XSI. when you Extract these you get your global >>>> transforms and when you Reset them you'd be setting the Pre-Transforms >>>> back to zero… >>> >>> The pretransforms are like XSI neutral pose >>> >>> Regarding Freeze… that is one of the things you may not want to inherit in >>> Houdini. Although at first made sense to me once I got a bit more under the >>> bonnet it was obvious that you can do it without having to rely on >>> freezing. Either by saving to disk, storing the resulting network on the >>> scene or other means. >>>> >>>> hope that makes sense, I thought it to be very straightforward. Houdini is >>>> very rewarding to learn, hope you enjoy. >>> >>> :-) >>> jb >>> >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> On 3 February 2017 at 15:12, Tim Bolland <tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk >>>> <mailto:tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: >>>> Hey, I'm currently taking a good look at Houdini as an application moving >>>> forward and I'm wondering if anyone has or uses any custom scripts to >>>> mimic some of the more used functions of Softimage. I'm thinking of things >>>> such as "Match All Transforms" and "Move Center to Vertices". General >>>> workflow commands you realise you miss when you jump into new software, I >>>> can imagine a script savvy guy out there must have whipped up custom shelf >>>> as soon as the program opened <OutlookEmoji-😉.png>. 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