No reason scaffolding can't be a CO, not to mention labor impact of using
it. Guys on the ground pushing, and guys climbing vrs pushing buttons for
up/down, F/R, L/R. here's a rope, tie a 90 and 2 couplings to it.
glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coastal
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:45 PM
To: Todd Williams - FPDC
Subject: Re[3]: Sprinklers in gymnasium light or OH2

Hello Todd,

I am letting the AHJ handle this one. It was in the specs as Painted Cement
Flooring. They made the change after the Sprinklers in the 42' high peaked
roof were installed. Now they say I can not run a lift in there if any
changes are needed. Big problem is the peak in 42' high, The sides are only
22' high. Might be an expensive rework in my book.

Sunday, February 24, 2008, 9:35:18 PM, you wrote:

> Charles,

> I've been working on a Gym with the same type of flooring. I have 
> asked for the MSDS for the cured product and if the flame spread 
> comes in at or less than oak flooring, then I think we can assume 
> that the rubber floor is no more hazardous that the standard. At 
> least that's my thought.


> At 06:15 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote:
>>Hello,

>>We just finished a Gym building for a Church here. They called it a 
>>"Family Life Center" All was well and good until they put in the 
>>liquid RUBBER basketball playing surface. It is still up in the air 
>>as to "Light Hazard" or not.

>>Sunday, February 24, 2008, 5:30:30 PM, you wrote:

>> > A lot can go into this. The Owners idea of usage trumps the A/E's
>> > idea of usage. Also, the type of building is worth considering. If
>> > this is a school, what do they plan to do with the room during the
>> > summer? Storage perhaps? If it is a church or YMCA, are they going to
>> > use it for purposes other than the gym? The occasional craft sale I
>> > wouldn't worry about too much. The weekly rummage and clothing sale,
>> > yes. The Owner needs to commit. This is where the Owner's Certificate
>> > in the later versions of 13 would be very helpful.


>> > At 04:50 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote:
>> >>Regarding gym VS multipurpose. A gym would be considered light 
>> hazard IMO. A
>> >>crafts fair or display of combustibles becomes ordinary hazard. My
problem
>> >>is getting the owner to tell us what possible uses there will be. The
>> >>A/Engineer says it is a gym and its light hazard. What say the forum?


>> >>Art @ ATCO Fire

>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Drucker
>> >>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:35 AM
>> >>To: [email protected]
>> >>Subject: RE: Sprinklers in gymnasium

>> >>Ed,

>> >>We have a number of fully sprinklered schools and community centers in
our
>> >>jurisdiction with no incidents to date.

>> >>As a sidebar most are used as multipurpose; gyms, sporting events,
large
>> >>meetings, craft fairs.............

>> >>John Drucker
>> >>Fire Protection Subcode Official
>> >>New Jersey


>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
Vining
>> >>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:08 AM
>> >>To: [email protected]
>> >>Subject: Sprinklers in gymnasium

>> >>Any thoughts about types of sprinklers or protection for them in a
school
>> >>gymnasium?  I can visualize kids shooting basketballs at them.

>> >>--
>> >>Ed Vining
>> >>4819 John Muir Rd
>> >>Martinez CA 94553
>> >>925-228-879
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>> > Todd G. Williams, PE
>> > Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>> > Stonington, Connecticut
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