Back in the late 70's I used to be a grunt on a crew that installed floors of this type. I don't know what the chemical make-up was of the product, but I can tell you that the type we installed did not burn. We installed one in a church and it was only a month old and we were called in the repair the new floor. They had a party of some sort and people put out their cigarettes on the floor. There were burns as long as a complete cigarette (3") and the floor never ignited. So it may not be much of a problem.
David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coastal Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:36 AM To: George Church Subject: Re[5]: Sprinklers in gymnasium light or OH2 Hello George, When setup there is not much of a place to push it to. Scaffold will have to be broken down to 20' to move and work the 2 outside heads, then build up 2 sections work the next 2 heads, add 2 more sections to get to the center head. Tear it down to 20', move 10 feet and start that over. Not to mention they are checking to see if the floor covering will support the concentrated weight of the scaffold, man, and materials when set on the small contact area wheels have. I might be using lots of plywood. It is funny tho, They did not install the flooring until after the final Inspection of the Sprinkler and fire alarm systems. Sunday, February 24, 2008, 11:48:25 PM, you wrote: > No reason scaffolding can't be a CO, not to mention labor impact of using > it. Guys on the ground pushing, and guys climbing vrs pushing buttons for > up/down, F/R, L/R. here's a rope, tie a 90 and 2 couplings to it. > glc > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coastal > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:45 PM > To: Todd Williams - FPDC > Subject: Re[3]: Sprinklers in gymnasium light or OH2 > Hello Todd, > I am letting the AHJ handle this one. It was in the specs as Painted Cement > Flooring. They made the change after the Sprinklers in the 42' high peaked > roof were installed. Now they say I can not run a lift in there if any > changes are needed. Big problem is the peak in 42' high, The sides are only > 22' high. Might be an expensive rework in my book. > Sunday, February 24, 2008, 9:35:18 PM, you wrote: >> Charles, >> I've been working on a Gym with the same type of flooring. I have >> asked for the MSDS for the cured product and if the flame spread >> comes in at or less than oak flooring, then I think we can assume >> that the rubber floor is no more hazardous that the standard. At >> least that's my thought. >> At 06:15 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote: >>>Hello, >>>We just finished a Gym building for a Church here. They called it a >>>"Family Life Center" All was well and good until they put in the >>>liquid RUBBER basketball playing surface. It is still up in the air >>>as to "Light Hazard" or not. >>>Sunday, February 24, 2008, 5:30:30 PM, you wrote: >>> > A lot can go into this. The Owners idea of usage trumps the A/E's >>> > idea of usage. Also, the type of building is worth considering. If >>> > this is a school, what do they plan to do with the room during the >>> > summer? Storage perhaps? If it is a church or YMCA, are they going to >>> > use it for purposes other than the gym? The occasional craft sale I >>> > wouldn't worry about too much. The weekly rummage and clothing sale, >>> > yes. The Owner needs to commit. This is where the Owner's Certificate >>> > in the later versions of 13 would be very helpful. >>> > At 04:50 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote: >>> >>Regarding gym VS multipurpose. A gym would be considered light >>> hazard IMO. A >>> >>crafts fair or display of combustibles becomes ordinary hazard. My > problem >>> >>is getting the owner to tell us what possible uses there will be. The >>> >>A/Engineer says it is a gym and its light hazard. What say the forum? >>> >>Art @ ATCO Fire >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John > Drucker >>> >>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:35 AM >>> >>To: [email protected] >>> >>Subject: RE: Sprinklers in gymnasium >>> >>Ed, >>> >>We have a number of fully sprinklered schools and community centers in > our >>> >>jurisdiction with no incidents to date. >>> >>As a sidebar most are used as multipurpose; gyms, sporting events, > large >>> >>meetings, craft fairs............. >>> >>John Drucker >>> >>Fire Protection Subcode Official >>> >>New Jersey >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed > Vining >>> >>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:08 AM >>> >>To: [email protected] >>> >>Subject: Sprinklers in gymnasium >>> >>Any thoughts about types of sprinklers or protection for them in a > school >>> >>gymnasium? I can visualize kids shooting basketballs at them. >>> >>-- >>> >>Ed Vining >>> >>4819 John Muir Rd >>> >>Martinez CA 94553 >>> >>925-228-879 >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>> >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> >>[email protected] >>> >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>> >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> >>[email protected] >>> >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>> >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> >>[email protected] >>> >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> > Todd G. Williams, PE >>> > Fire Protection Design/Consulting >>> > Stonington, Connecticut >>> > www.fpdc.com >>> > 860.535.2080 >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>>-- >>>Best regards, >>>Charles Thurston >>> Coastal mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> Todd G. 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