Is this an ASRS system, narrow aisles, automated picker?

What are the "cartons"?  Cardboard, 5-sided plastic, etc....?

Typically in these hi-rise rack systems the bottom tier is inaccessible to the 
picker so there is no regular storage of commodities, BUT that doesn't mean 
there is not "other" storage.  I saw a lawn tractor and other lawn equipment 
stored in this "non-storage"


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
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Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matsuda, Richard
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 1st Level of in-rack sprinklers location

Ron,
Let's play devils advocate and go back to the question that I asked in my first 
response. 
>>>>If your total storage arrangement is 35-feet high, do you design for
the total height of 35-feet or only
30-feet high since the lower 5-feet is dead space?<<<<

I don't understand your note regarding your source of ignition being a ..."hot 
load containing something that ignites after sitting in the rack for a few 
hours or days".
What the h--- is this storage? Class 4 and Group A in cartons?...what is this 
"hot load"?

And to answer Roland's question...yes, it appears that 10-feet (or close to 
10-feet) between sprinklers is the intent, but 110-feet of storage height is 
something I cannot imagine and I would hate to err on the lenient side...so go 
back to the question that I asked earlier. 
>>>>If your total storage arrangement is 35-feet high, do you design for
the total height of 35-feet or only 30-feet high since the lower 5-feet is dead 
space?<<<< rick

p.s. Gotta run to a meeting...will have to continue this discussion later if 
y'all if you wish.
rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 1st Level of in-rack sprinklers location

No one gets shot on this forum (I hope), all opinions are appreciated.

To play devils advocate though what would you do if the load height were 10 ft. 
instead of 5? The top of the first tier would be 15 ft. off the floor.

I don't agree with the "source of ignition would probably be at the floor 
level". I think the most likely source would be a hot load containing something 
that ignites after sitting in the rack for a few hours or days.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
21605 N. Central Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85024
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