Rick,

Once the storage is over 25 ft. the "height" really doesn't matter. The
roof density is determined by the distance from top level or in-racks to
the top of storage and the in-rack requirement is from Figures
17.3.1.2(a) to 17.3.1.2(f) based on a level of sprinklers about every 10
ft. or two tiers.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
21605 N. Central Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85024
P: 623.580.7836
F: 623.434.3420
C: 602.763.4160

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matsuda,
Richard
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 1st Level of in-rack sprinklers location

Ron, 
Let's play devils advocate and go back to the question that I asked in
my first response. 
>>>>If your total storage arrangement is 35-feet high, do you design for
the total height of 35-feet or only
30-feet high since the lower 5-feet is dead space?<<<<

I don't understand your note regarding your source of ignition being a
..."hot load
containing something that ignites after sitting in the rack for a few
hours or days".
What the h--- is this storage? Class 4 and Group A in cartons?...what is
this "hot load"?

And to answer Roland's question...yes, it appears that 10-feet (or close
to 10-feet) between sprinklers is the intent, but 110-feet of storage
height is something I cannot imagine and I would hate to err on the
lenient side...so go back to the question that I asked earlier. 
>>>>If your total storage arrangement is 35-feet high, do you design for
the total height of 35-feet or only 30-feet high since the lower 5-feet
is dead space?<<<<
rick

p.s. Gotta run to a meeting...will have to continue this discussion
later if y'all if you wish.
rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher,
Ron
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 1st Level of in-rack sprinklers location

No one gets shot on this forum (I hope), all opinions are appreciated.

To play devils advocate though what would you do if the load height were
10 ft. instead of 5? The top of the first tier would be 15 ft. off the
floor.

I don't agree with the "source of ignition would probably be at the
floor level". I think the most likely source would be a hot load
containing something that ignites after sitting in the rack for a few
hours or days.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
21605 N. Central Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85024
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