NFPA #13R cites the criteria you drag in from #13 for outside the dwelling
units. I don't believe combined hose is in it, density and MRA size is.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apartment Building

Watch out! I don't think you can delete hose allowance for the parkade, as
it is included in the design criteria for 13. Anyway, I have always included
it. Can someone else confirm?

Tony 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Holsopple
(forum)
Sent: January 7, 2009 11:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apartment Building

"Can the garage be protected with a 13 System and the apartments on top be a
13R System?"

David,

Depending on the area height limitations allowed by your state building
code, the entire building could be done per 13R if the parking garage is for
use by the tenants of that building and not "open to the public". Keep in
mind that 13R gives guidance for areas outside the dwelling unit which would
be designed similar to a 13 system without things like a hose allowance.

There was a discussion awhile back that might appear in the archives
pertaining to this very issue you may want to look up.

Best Regards,
Ken Holsopple
Design Manager
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Autry, David
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Apartment Building

I think I know this but I want to verify.

Two story apartment building on top of a parking garage.

Can the garage be protected with a 13 System and the apartments on top be a
13R System?

David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
402-471-3118 fax
www.sfm.ne.gov

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