It was probably EFIS that burned like at Mandalay Bay a while back. A welder on the roof started the fire and it spread down the outside of the building. I guess the stuff melts and runs down spreading the fire.
Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ 85024 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire I wonder if they were using bamboo scaffolding. Could cause a fire to spread down At 09:38 AM 2/11/2009, you wrote: >Chris, > >See this video.... > >http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-210388 > >In this video (and some others) there is a small fire atop the building. > > >Smitty > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris >Cahill >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:31 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel >fire > >MSNBC, Fox and CNN all had video on line yesterday of this. I would be >skeptical about it starting on the roof and burning down, but who knows. >At a certain point it looks like all floors are burning. This isn't >consistent with our HR fires where they seem to spread floor to floor >and the lower floors are consumed before the higher floors ignite. >Perhaps the under construction explains some of the inconsistencies. No >information I could gather about fire safety systems including >sprinklers. One FF was reported >killed. > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29099358 the video is still there this >morning. > >Chris Cahill, P.E. >Fire Protection Engineer >Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. > >763-658-4483 >763-658-4921 fax > >Email: [email protected] > >Mail: P.O. Box 69 > Waverly, MN 55390 > >Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW > Waverly, MN 55390 >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Autry, >David >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:00 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel >fire > >I read somewhere, that fireworks started it. Lunar New Year. > >David Autry >Plans Examiner >Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office >246 S. 14th Street >Lincoln, NE 68508 >402-471-9659 >402-471-3118 fax >www.sfm.ne.gov > >** Note new email address: [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:52 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel >fire > >Apparently the Chinese government issued an information blackout for the >fire that appears to have completely engulfed the 34-story building this >past Monday. The building is under construction and It looks like the >fire involved the entire structure from top to bottom. >The fire supposedly started on the roof and then very quickly spread to >all floors or at least so it seems before the information blackout. A >fire like this does not seem to be expected. There must be some >mitigating factors in the building design. Does anyone, perhaps knowing >someone at Arup, have any inside information on the building's design? >It seems there must be an important lesson in building design to be >learned here. > >Allan Seidel >St. Louis, MO >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >[email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >[email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >[email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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