I wonder if they were using bamboo scaffolding. Could cause a fire to
spread down
At 09:38 AM 2/11/2009, you wrote:
Chris,
See this video....
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-210388
In this video (and some others) there is a small fire atop the building.
Smitty
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fire
MSNBC, Fox and CNN all had video on line yesterday of this. I would be
skeptical about it starting on the roof and burning down, but who knows.
At a certain point it looks like all floors are burning. This isn't
consistent with our HR fires where they seem to spread floor to floor
and the lower floors are consumed before the higher floors ignite.
Perhaps the under construction explains some of the inconsistencies. No
information I could gather about fire safety systems including
sprinklers. One FF was reported
killed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29099358 the video is still there this
morning.
Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
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763-658-4921 fax
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David
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Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel
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I read somewhere, that fireworks started it. Lunar New Year.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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Subject: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel
fire
Apparently the Chinese government issued an information blackout for the
fire that appears to have completely engulfed the 34-story building this
past Monday. The building is under construction and It looks like the
fire involved the entire structure from top to bottom.
The fire supposedly started on the roof and then very quickly spread to
all floors or at least so it seems before the information blackout. A
fire like this does not seem to be expected. There must be some
mitigating factors in the building design. Does anyone, perhaps knowing
someone at Arup, have any inside information on the building's design?
It seems there must be an important lesson in building design to be
learned here.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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