Maybe there are extenuating circumstances? One can never rule out deliberate.
Especially when it's been said that fire began on the roof? And burned down? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire MSNBC, Fox and CNN all had video on line yesterday of this. I would be skeptical about it starting on the roof and burning down, but who knows. At a certain point it looks like all floors are burning. This isn't consistent with our HR fires where they seem to spread floor to floor and the lower floors are consumed before the higher floors ignite. Perhaps the under construction explains some of the inconsistencies. No information I could gather about fire safety systems including sprinklers. One FF was reported killed. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29099358 the video is still there this morning. Chris Cahill, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. 763-658-4483 763-658-4921 fax Email: [email protected] Mail: P.O. Box 69 Waverly, MN 55390 Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire I read somewhere, that fireworks started it. Lunar New Year. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire Apparently the Chinese government issued an information blackout for the fire that appears to have completely engulfed the 34-story building this past Monday. The building is under construction and It looks like the fire involved the entire structure from top to bottom. The fire supposedly started on the roof and then very quickly spread to all floors or at least so it seems before the information blackout. A fire like this does not seem to be expected. There must be some mitigating factors in the building design. Does anyone, perhaps knowing someone at Arup, have any inside information on the building's design? It seems there must be an important lesson in building design to be learned here. Allan Seidel St. Louis, MO _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
