Chris, Cricket is the incomprehensible game that apparently looks like a helicopter landing pad when you're in a helicopter. If I ever get back th NZ I'll look for you on the pitch.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Chris Mak <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wrong side of the dateline George. Almost Friday noon - working hard to get > ut the door for a beer by 4pm, and then to watch a game of cricket between > New Zealand and India during the evening. Cricket is the civilized game > that possibly morfed into baseball where you live. > > > Have a good weekend. > > > Chris Mak > Sprinkler Certification Manager > Aon New Zealand > Level 1, 4 Fred Thomas Drive, > PO Box33-1240, Takapuna > > > DDI: +64 9 486 9761 | Mobile:027 434 4058 | Fax:+64 9 486 0112 > > > > > "George Church" > <[email protected]> > Sent by: To > sprinklerforum-bo <[email protected]> > un...@firesprinkl cc > er.org > Subject > RE: PE Peer Review > 27/02/2009 11:32 > a.m. > > > Please respond to > sprinklerfo...@fi > resprinkler.org > > > > > > > Well, at least that leftist Leyton owned up and took the blame for what > truly IS his fault. > > Ok, Ron's apologized twice, and with the volume of Pelosi coming at him at > Aero, I think that's plenty. And its hard to type when you're seeing red. > > Chris got us back into the family hug mode, so I forgive Steve for baiting > me into Pelosi, everyone's vocab is up for the new administration, and RJA > even had a great stand-up letter on behalf of his employer- very well done, > and echoed by Rahe. > > Chris IS right, after 10+ years on this Forum, we do consider each other > friends. Heck, twice I've been within a few miles or hours of having a beer > with Chris, and there's a dozen that are very close friends-even after > meeting in person. As much as our political views diverge, the Leytons are > welcome back at our place and we get to SD more often than they imagined > possible, despite 3,000 miles apart. > > Best of all, we've already met this year's quota of PE bashing so we can > move on to other items. > > Too bad its not Friday, I could use a weekend. > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, > SET > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: PE Peer Review > > "Therefore, I make my assessments of an FPE's abilities by the person I am > dealing with, not the company they work for." > > This is likely the best thing to come out of this thread. Aside from the > PELOSI :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: PE Peer Review > > Mark, > I agree. I personally know the RJA FPEs in Dallas and they are awesome. > However, you must know that Tom Izbicki, of that office, was also the FPE > for the City of Dallas and has seen these issues from both sides of the > table. The Dallas RJA office, and particularly Tom Izbicki, is one of my > top preferences for doing work for us. I would rather have them over > almost > all of the others that I deal with. > > However, with the exception of the other 2 FPEs that used to be in the > Dallas office, I have had terrible luck with some of the other RJA offices. > Therefore, I make my assessments of an FPE's abilities by the person I am > dealing with, not the company they work for. > > Thank You > > Rahe Loftin, P.E. > Region 7 - GSA > Office - 817-978-7299 > Fax - 817-978-8644 > Cell - 817-371-3102 > > > > > > "Mark Hasenmyer, > PE" To > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Sent by: cc > sprinklerforum-bo > un...@firesprinkl Subject > er.org RE: PE Peer Review > > > 02/25/2009 08:56 > PM > > > Please respond to > sprinklerfo...@fi > resprinkler.org > > > > > > > Why don't you just call and ask where they are coming from and let them lay > their cards on the table. I know the FPE's at RJA in Dallas and they are > all competent. > > Mark Hasenmyer, PE > MEH Fire Protection Engineering LLC > 1311 River Oaks Drive > Flower Mound, TX 75028 > Office (972) 874-2662 > Cell (469) 235-3154 > Fax (866) 610-1522 toll free > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: PE Peer Review > > Tell Jim or Steve to..., well never mind. > > I don't agree to increasing the area because of a "higher potential for > fire". > > However, if the intent was to say "the fire potential is higher", that is > larger fire area is anticipated, then I would agree. One can argue that an > intentially set fire by the inmates is highly probable. If this is the > case, > a larger area would be proper without increasing the density because of the > limited combustibles. The fuel load is what it is, but the quantity of > involved materials may be larger because of inmate activity. > > But, this should have been presented "clearly" in the specs. > Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Fletcher, Ron" <[email protected]> > > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:02:33 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: PE Peer Review > > > I would like the take from the PE's on forum on how to deal with a plan > review comment from an unnamed engineering firm (RJA). > > "Due to the higher than normal potential for a fire in the occupant > sleeping > and common areas, the reduction in fire are (remote area) for quick > response > sprinkler in accordance with NFPA #13 Figure 11.2.3.2.3.1 is not a good > engineering practice. 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