You get out at 4:00? It's 6:00PM here and I'm just shutting down
(typical day). Enjoy the match
At 05:38 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote:
Wrong side of the dateline George. Almost Friday noon - working hard to get
ut the door for a beer by 4pm, and then to watch a game of cricket between
New Zealand and India during the evening. Cricket is the civilized game
that possibly morfed into baseball where you live.
Have a good weekend.
Chris Mak
Sprinkler Certification Manager
Aon New Zealand
Level 1, 4 Fred Thomas Drive,
PO Box33-1240, Takapuna
DDI: +64 9 486 9761 | Mobile:027 434 4058 | Fax:+64 9 486 0112
"George Church"
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Well, at least that leftist Leyton owned up and took the blame for what
truly IS his fault.
Ok, Ron's apologized twice, and with the volume of Pelosi coming at him at
Aero, I think that's plenty. And its hard to type when you're seeing red.
Chris got us back into the family hug mode, so I forgive Steve for baiting
me into Pelosi, everyone's vocab is up for the new administration, and RJA
even had a great stand-up letter on behalf of his employer- very well done,
and echoed by Rahe.
Chris IS right, after 10+ years on this Forum, we do consider each other
friends. Heck, twice I've been within a few miles or hours of having a beer
with Chris, and there's a dozen that are very close friends-even after
meeting in person. As much as our political views diverge, the Leytons are
welcome back at our place and we get to SD more often than they imagined
possible, despite 3,000 miles apart.
Best of all, we've already met this year's quota of PE bashing so we can
move on to other items.
Too bad its not Friday, I could use a weekend.
glc
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack,
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PE Peer Review
"Therefore, I make my assessments of an FPE's abilities by the person I am
dealing with, not the company they work for."
This is likely the best thing to come out of this thread. Aside from the
PELOSI :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PE Peer Review
Mark,
I agree. I personally know the RJA FPEs in Dallas and they are awesome.
However, you must know that Tom Izbicki, of that office, was also the FPE
for the City of Dallas and has seen these issues from both sides of the
table. The Dallas RJA office, and particularly Tom Izbicki, is one of my
top preferences for doing work for us. I would rather have them over
almost
all of the others that I deal with.
However, with the exception of the other 2 FPEs that used to be in the
Dallas office, I have had terrible luck with some of the other RJA offices.
Therefore, I make my assessments of an FPE's abilities by the person I am
dealing with, not the company they work for.
Thank You
Rahe Loftin, P.E.
Region 7 - GSA
Office - 817-978-7299
Fax - 817-978-8644
Cell - 817-371-3102
"Mark Hasenmyer,
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Why don't you just call and ask where they are coming from and let them lay
their cards on the table. I know the FPE's at RJA in Dallas and they are
all competent.
Mark Hasenmyer, PE
MEH Fire Protection Engineering LLC
1311 River Oaks Drive
Flower Mound, TX 75028
Office (972) 874-2662
Cell (469) 235-3154
Fax (866) 610-1522 toll free
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:00 PM
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Tell Jim or Steve to..., well never mind.
I don't agree to increasing the area because of a "higher potential for
fire".
However, if the intent was to say "the fire potential is higher", that is
larger fire area is anticipated, then I would agree. One can argue that an
intentially set fire by the inmates is highly probable. If this is the
case,
a larger area would be proper without increasing the density because of the
limited combustibles. The fuel load is what it is, but the quantity of
involved materials may be larger because of inmate activity.
But, this should have been presented "clearly" in the specs.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Fletcher, Ron" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:02:33
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: PE Peer Review
I would like the take from the PE's on forum on how to deal with a plan
review comment from an unnamed engineering firm (RJA).
"Due to the higher than normal potential for a fire in the occupant
sleeping
and common areas, the reduction in fire are (remote area) for quick
response
sprinkler in accordance with NFPA #13 Figure 11.2.3.2.3.1 is not a good
engineering practice. Please revise the hydraulic calculation to account
for
at least the minimum 1500 square foot design area as specified by NFPA
#13."
The hazard is a dormitory at a minimum security prison.
Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
Phoenix, AZ
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