This appears to be a poorly worded or badly written/copied spec. Not an
unusual occurrence when non FPE's are involved with the Fire Protection. I'd
bid the job as I would normally install it, and where is say's "Per plans
and spec's" I note "Exceptions taken" If you are the low bidder, they'll
call and ask what your exceptions are. If you're not low bidder, they won't
be calling anyway.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Pre-action abort

Reasoning from a non-sprinkler proficient PE?  That's self explanatory.  I
haven't the foggiest idea why one would want it.  As I said won't return
calls, bid due shortly.  We're talking 10 PC's in a training classroom,
college like, 2400 sq.ft.  Then there is a second PA in a comm. room that is
300 sq.ft. which I imagine is the servers to run said PC's and connect to
the WWW.  Why both rooms aren't on the same PA I don't know that either.
Suspect PE is working of % of contract.  Also, local gov't work isn't
allowed to be cheap so when wet system prices fall something has to be added
so we last few taxpayers get our moneys worth? This ain't no billion dollar
server farm. There is also a clean agent someplace but I don't know where
and not my scope of work so I really don't care.  But adds to the oddity of
it all.  

Spec reads like a FM-200 or the like but is clearly for the double interlock
PA.  "1. Upon activation of smoke detector energize predischarge strobe and
bell.  2. Activate a time delay sequence and enable abort sequence.  3.
Abort station shall reset the 30 second time delay."

Now technically he never specs an electric/pneumatic.  Could always do
pneumatic/pneumatic to solve the problem.  

I don't like it either but before I start a fight I want to know which side
I'm on. (And just because I might be on the losing side code wise doesn't
mean I won't start it anyway).   

Chris Cahill, P.E.

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