NFPA 13 contains the "1 riser for each building" reference, and 2007 includes an exception for buildings connected by attached construction, such as a covered walkway or breezeway. I think we're agreeing, no? So long as the 3rd building has its own system, you can use the common water supply ...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Ron Greenman" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:58:04 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Fire Pump for Multiple Buildings Steve, Good practice says you shouldn't feed more than one building from a riser but is there a reference from IBC that clearly states that? I agree that one pump can service several buildings on a campus (as long as it's in a separated pump house) just as a single pump can feed several risers in the same building or a municipal pump can service multiplke properties wuthin a water district. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Steve Leyton<[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know of any restrictions in code or standards that would > preclude a "central plant" water supply, and I think the AHJ is > over-reaching in his interpretation of separate. NFPA 13 and 14 speak > to connection of systems to adequate water supplies, which can take any > one of a number of forms. Those can even be a combination elements - > tanks, pumps, wells - that collectively make up an adequate water > supply. The "separate and complete stand-alone fire suppression system" > is still to be furnished: separate service from the point of connection > to the water supply, separate control valve(s) and FDC(s), separate > riser, separate local alarm, separate supervisory system, separate > monitoring address, etc. So long as the existing automatic water > supply is adequate to meet whatever demands are created in the new > building, there's no prohibition against using it. > > Steve Leyton > Protection Design & Consulting > San Diego, CA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Mike > Hairfield > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:46 AM > To: AFSA SprinklerFORUM > Subject: Fire Pump for Multiple Buildings > > > > Existing facility has one fire pump serving two existing buildings, the > owner wants to > > add a third building. Local AHJ states IBC requires a separate complete > stand alone > > fire suppression system thus requiring the owner to provide a new fire > pump and city > > water connection for the building. > > > > Has any one run across this IBC requirement or is the AHJ incorrect in > his statement? > > > > Mike Hairfield > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4173 (20090620) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4173 (20090620) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum <http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4173 (20090620)__________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
