Yes, we are agreeing.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> NFPA 13 contains the "1 riser for each building" reference, and 2007 includes 
> an exception for buildings connected by attached construction, such as a 
> covered walkway or breezeway.  I think we're agreeing, no?   So long as the 
> 3rd building has its own system, you can use the common water supply ...
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ron Greenman" <[email protected]>
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:58:04
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Fire Pump for Multiple Buildings
>
>
> Steve,
> Good practice says you shouldn't feed more than one building from a
> riser but is there a reference from IBC that clearly states that? I
> agree that one pump can service several buildings on a campus (as long
> as it's in a separated pump house) just as a single pump can feed
> several risers in the same building or a municipal pump can service
> multiplke properties wuthin a water district.
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Steve Leyton<[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I don't know of any restrictions in code or standards that would
>> preclude a "central plant" water supply, and I think the AHJ is
>> over-reaching in his interpretation of separate.   NFPA 13 and 14 speak
>> to connection of systems to adequate water supplies, which can take any
>> one of a number of forms. Those can even be a combination elements -
>> tanks, pumps, wells - that collectively make up an adequate water
>> supply.  The "separate and complete stand-alone fire suppression system"
>> is still to be furnished:  separate service from the point of connection
>> to the water supply, separate control valve(s) and FDC(s), separate
>> riser, separate local alarm, separate supervisory system, separate
>> monitoring address, etc.   So long as the existing automatic water
>> supply is adequate to meet whatever demands are created in the new
>> building, there's no prohibition against using it.
>>
>> Steve Leyton
>> Protection Design & Consulting
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Hairfield
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:46 AM
>> To: AFSA SprinklerFORUM
>> Subject: Fire Pump for Multiple Buildings
>>
>>
>>
>>  Existing facility has one fire pump serving two existing buildings, the
>> owner wants to
>>
>> add a third building. Local AHJ states IBC requires a separate complete
>> stand alone
>>
>> fire suppression system thus requiring the owner to provide a new fire
>> pump and city
>>
>> water connection for the building.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has any one run across this IBC requirement or is the AHJ incorrect in
>> his statement?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Hairfield
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