LOL,  1-Doesn't mean I'm not here. 2-Doesn't mean I'm wrong. 3-My scope of
work is 13, sounds like the FA guy's problem.

Seriously though it has only come up once that I have been part of in the
private sector.  After a long discussion on site the FM made us set the
retard on the flow switch so that the alarms rang in 60 seconds.  We could
see the meter spin with surges in the street and our pressure climb 20 psi
in a couple minutes.  It was a very large system (3" bl and 6" and 8" mains)
and took 58 seconds for the flow switch to even move. 1/2" head ITV because
of the office parts.   He was happy when we passed at 60 sec. with no
retard.  I advised him he created a situation that would result in false
alarms.  Of course he knew more than me.  5-10 minutes later BS'ing in the
parking lot sure enough the FD was dispatched for a flow alarm.  He was on
the VFD and his pager went off for the building he was at.  Priceless and
yes I did point out the "I told you so" as I left it in his "capable" hands,
he was a @#$^$%&$...@#.  I win after 3 more false alarms over the weekend and
they set the retard back to 45 seconds.   

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Watt
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: water flow timing

Chris, you would be butting heads with every AHJ in the Central Florida 
area. I have never gotten a CO without sounding alarms within 60-90 secs.

Thomas Watt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Cahill" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: water flow timing


> Right or wrong I always reconciled 13 vs. 72 like this.  The flow switch
> must activate within the parameters of 13.  5 minutes.  Once the paddle
> moves and the electrical connection is made 72 takes over and the FA must
> respond within the parameters of 72.  90 seconds.  So in theory 6.5 
> minutes
> could pass between opening the inspectors test valve and the alarm signal
> engaging in the FAP.
>
> Chris Cahill, P.E.
> Fire Protection Engineer
> Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
>
> 763-658-4483
> 763-658-4921 fax
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> Mail: P.O. Box 69
>        Waverly, MN 55390
>
> Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
>              Waverly, MN 55390
 

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