I think you are going to be proven correct...

Why the drop to 106, 108, 112? Amps were fine 33-38



 
Matthew J. Willis, CET
Automatic Fire Sprinklers
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 3 from 1

Thanks guys. I didn't look in the commentary. I rejected the idea 
because it seemed like it could be more trouble than it is worth.



At 12:26 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
>Todd,
>
>20-A.9.2.2 in the 2007 edition. Not prohibited but not recommended.
>
>On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Todd Williams<[email protected]> wrote:
> > You may need to have an electrical engineer review the installation.
> > I did a single phase pump a few years ago and ran into electrical
> > problems (for which I was blamed). Hired an EE and he went through
> > and found the electrician messed up the installation from the service
> > right through to the pump as well as the generator feed and
> > connection. Didn't have a converter, but did have two transformers
> > because the electrician told us the wrong voltage (208 v. 240 - for
> > which I was also blamed).
> >
> > BTW, what section of the Code says Phase Converters are not allowed?
> > I couldn't find that at the time, but had rejected the idea anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:58 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
> >>I need some education of Phase Converters.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>A 300 gpm Fire Pump (Tank fed), is supplied by one of these things.
Single
> >>phase only is available, so one of these has been installed to 
> make it work.
> >>Installed in '06-07ish, just replaced main board in controller. I was
there
> >>to do test following part replace. 240vac, dropped to 106-108 across the
3
> >>as indicated on panel. Middle leg showed 422vac in event log, as high
peak.
> >>When started, pump shaft (vertical) jumped up and down repeatedly. We
red
> >>tagged it and are waiting on word from electricians. Pump Motor checked
out
> >>fine. I know they are not allowed, but it was approved, so., I 
> just test it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>R/
> >>
> >>Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Matthew J. Willis, CET
> >>
> >>Automatic Fire Sprinklers
> >>
> >>Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
> >>
> >>318-387-1134 Voice
> >>
> >>318-387-1163 Facsimile
> >>
> >>[email protected]
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Todd G. Williams, PE
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Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
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