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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Law, Kevin W Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Heads Under Platforms I would respectfully request that Mr. Greenman and others keep their responses and comments professional and to the point. Talking about "pissing on the fire" hardly evokes sence of professionalism. Sometimes the traffic on this forum is not what I would expect from a group of professionals and errodes my confidence in turning to it as a source of technical information and advise. Kevin Law, PE Bechtel National, Inc. Waste Treatment Project Fire Protection Engineering Work (509) 371-3280 Cell (509) 531-5715 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Heads Under Platforms Somehow he must have the idea that if there is a fire under the platform that it's better to wait until it releases enough heat to fuse the ceiling heads that are shielded by the platform. My preference would be to start pissing on the fire as soon as possible. Uses less piss and burns up less stuff. So yes, he has backwards thinking. Everything about the codes seems to (typically 'cause there's always exceptions) direct the designer to get the water on the fire as fast as possible. Why would you not want to do that? On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Forest Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > In response to question 1, I utilize the listed shield in similar > applications. It can't do any harm. > In response to question 2, I don't use intermediate heads under duct > or similar obstructions. I'm unaware of a requiement in NFPA 13 to do > this. > > > > Forest Wilson > > Project Manager > Cherokee Fire Protection Co. > 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 > Dayton OH 45434 > > ph: 937-376-2333 > fx: 614-455-4324 > cell: 937-307-5647 > > > . > > > > Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be > solely for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is > directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise > confidential. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, > anyone other than the named addressee (or a person authorized to > deliver it to the named addressee). It should not be copied or > forwarded to any unauthorized persons. If you have received this > electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your > system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the > error by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at > 888-347-3079 toll free. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Watt <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:39:51 -0400 > Subject: Heads Under Platforms > > I have a fire house which has 3 poles dropping from the living > quarters to platforms in the apparatus bay. At this point they drop > from a separate pole to the ground level. These platforms are steel > with slots approximately > 1/4 inch by 6 inches long. I piped them out with 155 QR Uprights the > same as the high ceiling. > > Question: Shall/should these heads have a rack type shield to prevent > cold-solder? > > Question: AHJ wants Intermediate heads so that they dont fuse before > upper coverage responds. (He didn't say anything about the heads > under > ductwork.) > Isn't this backward thinking? I would think you would want the closest > head to activate first. 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