Garth my friend, civility, please. Mr. Law had a valid point. He's new to the Forum and its culture. He's been chastised. He and I have communicated privately and I think we're both OK. I am at least. And I think he'll get in our groove and become a valuable contributor to our ongoing conversations. Remember that huge gaff I made with Haji last week? Lots of apologies publicly and privately. The matter has been dropped. I hope I've been forgiven. And so we move on. Take care.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Garth W. Warren <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe you can take the knot out of your shorts whilst you read one of the > other forums that makes you feel better about yourself. And get a spell > check. > > Garth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Law, Kevin W" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:54 AM > Subject: RE: Heads Under Platforms > > > I would respectfully request that Mr. Greenman and others keep their > responses and comments professional and to the point. Talking about > "pissing on the fire" hardly evokes sence of professionalism. Sometimes the > traffic on this forum is not what I would expect from a group of > professionals and errodes my confidence in turning to it as a source of > technical information and advise. > > Kevin Law, PE > Bechtel National, Inc. > Waste Treatment Project > Fire Protection Engineering > Work (509) 371-3280 > Cell (509) 531-5715 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Heads Under Platforms > > Somehow he must have the idea that if there is a fire under the platform > that it's better to wait until it releases enough heat to fuse the ceiling > heads that are shielded by the platform. My preference would be to start > pissing on the fire as soon as possible. > Uses less piss and burns up less stuff. So yes, he has backwards thinking. > Everything about the codes seems to (typically 'cause there's always > exceptions) direct the designer to get the water on the fire as fast as > possible. Why would you not want to do that? > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Forest Wilson <[email protected]> > wrote: >> In response to question 1, I utilize the listed shield in similar >> applications. It can't do any harm. >> In response to question 2, I don't use intermediate heads under duct >> or similar obstructions. I'm unaware of a requiement in NFPA 13 to do >> this. >> >> >> >> Forest Wilson >> >> Project Manager >> Cherokee Fire Protection Co. >> 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 >> Dayton OH 45434 >> >> ph: 937-376-2333 >> fx: 614-455-4324 >> cell: 937-307-5647 >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be >> solely for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is >> directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise >> confidential. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, >> anyone other than the named addressee (or a person authorized to >> deliver it to the named addressee). It should not be copied or >> forwarded to any unauthorized persons. If you have received this >> electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your >> system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the >> error by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at >> 888-347-3079 toll free. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thomas Watt <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:39:51 -0400 >> Subject: Heads Under Platforms >> >> I have a fire house which has 3 poles dropping from the living >> quarters to platforms in the apparatus bay. At this point they drop >> from a separate pole to the ground level. These platforms are steel >> with slots approximately >> 1/4 inch by 6 inches long. I piped them out with 155 QR Uprights the >> same as the high ceiling. >> >> Question: Shall/should these heads have a rack type shield to prevent >> cold-solder? >> >> Question: AHJ wants Intermediate heads so that they dont fuse before >> upper coverage responds. (He didn't say anything about the heads >> under >> ductwork.) >> Isn't this backward thinking? I would think you would want the closest >> head to activate first. 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