I apply the definition 3.3.18 (02) when dealing with impairment. Usually a shut valve, or disconnected pipe. LA law also added the wording about danger to life. I will NOT even attempt to make a decision like that. So if water will flow, I do not red tag. Does FL have a yellow?
R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CET Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 25 and Scope in Florida Well, in Florida the waters got very muddy with the wording of the new state law for Green/Red tag. If a system is impaired it gets a red tag and according to Relmark, they can't get answers from the state fire marshall defining the parameters. For now, most companies are either green tagging everything or red tagging everything since you can nearly always find a small problem, ie, missing hyd plates, sprinkler eschs etc. When you red tag a system for some of these small issues, you are getting outside the scope of 25. Sprinklers in pockets were not usually considered 30 yrs ago, but now we are supposed to red tag it? A complete mess in my opinion. Greg McGahan Operations Manager Living Water Fire Protection 1160 McKenzie Road P.O. Box 877 Cantonment, Florida 32533 (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 25 and Scope Sealed is weekly, Chain and Tamper are monthly Table 12.1 (02) R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CET Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 25 and Scope Regarding chain vs electrical tampers, inspection frequency should also be considered in the decision process. If I recall correctly, chain and lock valves must be inspected weekly per 25. Electric tampers are quarterly? Forest Wilson Project Manager Cherokee Fire Protection Co. 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 Dayton OH 45434 ph: 937-376-2333 fx: 614-455-4324 cell: 937-307-5647 . Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be solely for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, anyone other than the named addressee (or a person authorized to deliver it to the named addressee). It should not be copied or forwarded to any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at 888-347-3079 toll free. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
