Is it safe to consider the inlet line of the pump to be a private service main? 
It seems to fit with the intent of the code.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
*Licensed in KS & MO 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hose Allowance

I could have sworn that pumps taking suction from a pond qualified for 
eliminating inside and outside hose allowance per NFPA 13 02’

11.2.3.1.3 An allowance for inside and outside hose shall not be required where 
tanks supply
sprinklers only.
11.2.3.1.4 Where pumps taking suction from a private fire service main supply 
sprinklers
only, the pump need not be sized to accommodate inside and outside hose. Such 
hose allowance
shall be considered in evaluating the available water supplies.

Seems like it’s only private fire service mains and tanks. Can someone set me 
straight?

Best regards,

Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS
Burtell Fire Protection
Phone: 406.652.7697
Fax: 406.652.7743
Cell: 406.861.4507
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