It seems to me the last part of that is equally important "Such hose 
allowance shall be considered in evaluating the available water supplies." 
if the customer is looking to maximize insurance credits.

Garth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: Hose Allowance


> What they are considering is that the water sources mentioned are only 
> supplying the sprinkler systems, they are not supplying any stand pipes or 
> yard hydrants.
>
> So if your tank or pond or pool is connected to any hose standpipes in the 
> building or are serving any hydrants on the underground loop, you can't 
> apply that text excluding the hose allowance.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Hose Allowance
>
> I could have sworn that pumps taking suction from a pond qualified for 
> eliminating inside and outside hose allowance per NFPA 13 02'
>
> 11.2.3.1.3 An allowance for inside and outside hose shall not be required 
> where tanks supply sprinklers only.
> 11.2.3.1.4 Where pumps taking suction from a private fire service main 
> supply sprinklers only, the pump need not be sized to accommodate inside 
> and outside hose. Such hose allowance shall be considered in evaluating 
> the available water supplies.
>
> Seems like it's only private fire service mains and tanks. Can someone set 
> me straight?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS
> Burtell Fire Protection
> Phone: 406.652.7697
> Fax: 406.652.7743
> Cell: 406.861.4507
> Email: [email protected]
> Web Site: http://www.burtellfire.com
> P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to
>
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