A couple of comments:

1) I thought that's what Forest said last night, that both the backflow and the 
sensing line were on the suction side.  That's completely whack and I can't 
picture it either.  How the hell did they set the pump (and the jockey for that 
matter). 

2). FYI Ron:  I don't know if it's in the UFC's or just NAVFAC practice, but 
they're requiring the BFP to be on the discharge side of all pumps now.   

Steve


   
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Ron Greenman" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:14:22 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pump sensing line

Before the pump, between the backflow and the pump, and not after the 
pump discharge check? I'm trying to picture what's different than a 
typical set-up. 
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Forest Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: 
> The backflow is installed on the supply side of the pump, city side. 
> The sensing line is installed system side of backflow. 
> 
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> I'm surprised that the BFP was allowed on the system side of the pump 
> at all but since the sensing line is for pressure drop in the system 
> having it there (and allowing it as Tom says from the TIAs) makes 
> sense. 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Tom Duross <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> There was a TIA 2 or 3 editions ago for systems with the BFP on the 
>> discharge of the pump.  Between the loss through the BFP checks and the 
>> hammer between the pump chv and the BFP, they allowed for moving it there. 
>> It's correct and moreover better, also OK to combine them from the same 
>> system tap (assuming the JP is also before the BFP). 
>> 
>> Tom 
>> 
>> 
>> I saw a pump recently with the sensing line installed on the system side 
> of 
>> the backflow. 
>> What is the reason for installing on the system, rather than the city side 
>> of the backflow? 
>> Am I correct that it should be on the city side? 
>> 
>> Forest Wilson 
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