You are correct. There needs to be backflow protection between the 
public/domestic supply and the sprinkler system, and  also between the wet 
system and the antifreeze loop.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
*Licensed in KS & MO 

913.888.0647 ph 
913.888.0618 f 
913.927.0222 cell 
www. AFPsprink.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Kettler
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention

Thanks!

Found it now. We rarely see anti-freeze loops and I was happy to see this one. 
We typically see complete anti-freeze systems.

So as I read this - the "drilled out" check valve is required for expansion. If 
we use a back flow preventer in lieu of check valve, then we will see the 
expansion tank?

And these check valves and back flow preventers are specifically on the 
anti-freeze loop - not ones that might be required (NOT drilled out) between 
the sprinkler system and domestic water?

Jim K.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:09 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention

That is one of the conditions required to use the loop/check valve.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
Sales Engineer
Alliance Fire Protection
*Licensed in KS & MO

913.888.0647 ph
913.888.0618 f
913.927.0222 cell
www. AFPsprink.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Kettler
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention

I had an expansion tank/anti-freeze issue just this AM. Residential 13D system 
(pump & tank) with an anti-freeze loop, but no expansion tank. When I asked, I 
was told that they "drilled a 1/16th inch hole in the check valve on the 
anti-freeze loop which is the same as having the tank."

Really????

I've seen some strange things, but this was a first.



James M. Kettler, EFO, CFPS
Director of Building and Codes/Fire Marshal
Buckingham Township
PO Box 413
4613 Hughesian Drive
Buckingham, PA   18912
215-794-8836
www.buckinghampa.org


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