If you have issues with spitting and sputtering RPZs, it helps greatly if
you crack test cock #3 (the one over the zone) to make sure all the air is
bled out.  This will usually stop most sputtering when there's not a fouled
check.

I added an AF loop to an outside porch for a nursing home in Raleigh, and
thought I was lucky that the original contractor had installed an RPZ in the
hotbox at the curb, so I would only need a drilled check at the loop.
Unfortunately, the City plan reviewer didn't agree.  He claimed that the RPZ
at the curb wouldn't stop cross contamination if someone tapped a domestic
service into the yard main between the building and the hotbox.  Did I
mention that this was off a dedicated 6" fire service?

I do not miss dealing with Raleigh at all.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Roland Huggins
<[email protected]>wrote:

> bloody RPZ's have that annoying spitting characteristic too.
>
> As a sidebar, an RPZ is required for protection against toxic
> compounds but even non-toxic chemicals (like propylene glycol) get
> pushed into using it.  SInce an RPZ is for toxic compounds, a cycle or
> two ago I attempted to delete the restriction against ethylene glycol
> when an RPZ is used.  Needless to say, the TC decided not to depend on
> the RPZ that strongly.  To be honest, I didn't do an extensive review
> to see how stringent the IPC is on compounds that actually are toxic
> since I knew it would fly like a lead balloon.
>
> Anyone that plays with systems with nasty compounds that takes water
> from a potable supply, feel free to send me an off-Forum email
> educating me further.
>
> Roland
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Matt Grise wrote:
>
> > Sorry...unclear wording.
> >
> > I meant that you could use either:
> >
> > 1) an RPZ at the riser, and a drilled check valve at the loop
> > 2) a double check bfp at the  riser and an RPZ at the loop
> >
> > We sometimes use the second setup since RPZ's cost so much more than
> > DC BFP's. If the primary riser is 4,6,8" and the antifreeze loop
> > only needs a 1.25" RPZ, it can be less expensive to use 2 bfp's.
> >
> > Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
>
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