Wow Todd, as an AHJ I think I like you!
As a side note, one of my biggest gripes is an AHJ who does a partial
review finds one or two things, denies the plans, sends them back, you
correct and resubmit, than AHJ finishes review, denies plans again, and
the circle of discord continues.  What really eats my lunch are
rejections for none life safety issues such as scale blocks, north
arrows, etc .... Sometimes as a designer you get in a hurry and miss or
overlook little things that really are not important in the big picture.
It's nice when a reviewer realizes this.  Issues that aren't going to
affect the operation of the system or cause someone to be drug into
court don't need to be federal problems.  I'm low on coffee, so this is
just my afternoon rant.  

BK

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 0.58 over 2000

Very true. But I find if you understand where they screwed up, it helps
out when you do.



At 06:11 PM 12/16/2010, you wrote:
>I'd keep the work YOU do to a minimum and simply respond with an 
>email asking how .58x2000>1160 and let them find it.
>It's THEIR screwup, you're paid to review, not do the design.
>
>George Church'
>Rowe Sprinkler
>[email protected]
>570-837-7647
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed
Kramer
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:43 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: 0.58 over 2000
>
>Not crazy, just someone who knows what he's looking at.  Kudos!
>
>As others have stated, there's a whole number of reasons this could
happen.
>You can either reject the submittals outright (and make the designer 
>figure out where he/she went wrong), or spend the time to figure it 
>out yourself.
>Either way, it's nice to see a plan reviewer pick-up on something like
that.
>
>
>Ed Kramer
>Littleton, CO
>
>
>
> > Reviewing a hydraulic calc for a 0.58 over 2000 gridded warehouse
> > system.
> > All seemed OK until I reached the BOR flow of 1143 gpm.  From this I
> > assume the selected design area isn't correct since there's no way a
> > 0.58 over
> > 2000
> > system should flow less than 1160 gpm.  I've never heard of
hydraulic
> > imbalance that results in lower overall flow.  Am I crazy or is
there
> > a new version of sprinkler hydraulics out there?
> >
> > Bill Brooks
> >
> > William N. Brooks, P.E.
> > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc.
> >
>
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