Duane:

I think since you'll be speaking to future FPEs you should not only share the 
final polished list the Forum-ites help you write, but you should share the 
cynical answers as well.  I think it would be very beneficial for the students 
to understand the current attitudes towards consulting engineers from the 
installing contractor community. Let them know how widely ostracized Mechanical 
Engineers are in the fire sprinkler community due to their apparent lack of 
concern for 'practicing within their areas of expertise.'  Similarly, make it 
clear to these future FPEs that having an FPE after your name doesn't mean 
you're an expert when it comes to fire sprinkler consulting. This Forum has 
plenty of experience with FPEs that may know fire modeling or alarm systems, 
but don't do much better than the MEs when it comes time to take responsibility 
for a fire sprinkler system.

So challenge the students to take ownership of the systems with which they are 
associated. Just because they may only be hired to provide a 'performance 
specification,' that doesn't mean they can pass all engineering off to the 
contractor. Know enough to complete a full system design, so that when they 
provide performance specs, they understand what performance parameters are 
required to properly bid the job.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE| Fire Protection Engineer 
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.| Fargo, ND  
[email protected] 



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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: top five list

I will be a guest lecturer at the Univ of Md next week.  I will be providing a 
list of must do's while preparing sprinkler drawings.  Knowing that many 
students will be going to work for consulting firms and others to installation 
firms, I want to provide input from both perspectives.  So I ask the forum the 
following questions... here is your chance to provide input to future industry 
personnel:


If you were asked to provide a top 5 list that an engineer should do/identify 
on a sprinkler design, what would they be?


What are the first 5 items a sprinkler designer should do when preparing 
drawings?


Feel free to email me direct.
Thanks.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor) Office of Research Services 
National Institutes of Health
301-496-0487

"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"

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