Even though the Fire Marshal may be wrong in this case,it may be easier to appease him and add the uprights,maybe make a few points with him/her to use somewhere down the line.Unless you just really want to fight it.Just my opinion.

Lamar Vaughn,SET


On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, GAYLE KNOWLES wrote:

the room is a high school music room with 90 2X4 ceiling panels and only 16 of them are eggcrate panels. The 16 eggcrate 2X4 panels have a 40% opening per panel. We have pendants protecting the room but Fire Marshall thinks we need uprights.

Gayle Knowles, SET
Project Manager
Kaufman Fire Protection Systems. Inc. PH:505-884-2447



From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:58:56 -0600
Subject: RE: openings in ceiling grid

Since they are open eggcrate panels, are they using the space above for a return or supply plenum?
Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension 74102
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GAYLE KNOWLES
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:56 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: openings in ceiling grid


Sorry if this has come up before....we have a music room with drop in ceiling 2X4 tile, but a few of the tiles are an eggcrate style(40% open per tile). Fire Marshall would like us to direct him to the specific section of NFPA 13 (2010) that allows us not to put uprights above this room. We can only find section 8.15.1.2.1.1 explanation in handbook stating "evaluation of size and number of openings in relation to the overall area of the ceiling is important". This may be a decision he as AHJ will
need to make. Structure above ceiling, of course, non-combustible.

Thanks for any help to keep us from adding uprights in this room

Gayle Knowles, SET
Project Manager
Kaufman Fire Protection Systems. Inc. PH:505-884-2447


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