i agree, but he approved the plans which clearly noted the 16 eggcrate panels 
with 40% opening per panel.  Pipe is installed.
ceiling is installed.  We may end up adding the uprights.
 

Gayle Knowles, SET
Project Manager
Kaufman Fire Protection Systems. Inc. 
PH:505-884-2447


 
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:50:27 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: openings in ceiling grid
> 
> Even though the Fire Marshal may be wrong in this case,it may be easier 
> to appease him and add the uprights,maybe make a few points with him/her 
> to use somewhere down the line.Unless you just really want to fight 
> it.Just my opinion.
> 
> Lamar Vaughn,SET
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, GAYLE KNOWLES wrote:
> 
> > the room is a high school music room with 90 2X4 ceiling panels and 
> > only 16 of them are
> > eggcrate panels. The 16 eggcrate 2X4 panels have a 40% opening per 
> > panel. We have pendants protecting the room but Fire Marshall thinks 
> > we need uprights.
> >
> > Gayle Knowles, SET
> > Project Manager
> > Kaufman Fire Protection Systems. Inc. PH:505-884-2447
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:58:56 -0600
> >> Subject: RE: openings in ceiling grid
> >>
> >> Since they are open eggcrate panels, are they using the space above 
> >> for a return or supply plenum?
> >> Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL
> >> Lockwood Greene
> >> 1500 International Drive
> >> Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491
> >> Direct - 864.599.4102
> >> Fax - 864.599.8439
> >> CH2MHILL Extension 74102
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] 
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GAYLE 
> >> KNOWLES
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:56 PM
> >> To: sprinklerforum
> >> Subject: openings in ceiling grid
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry if this has come up before....we have a music room with drop in 
> >> ceiling 2X4 tile, but
> >> a few of the tiles are an eggcrate style(40% open per tile). Fire 
> >> Marshall would like us to direct him to the specific
> >> section of NFPA 13 (2010) that allows us not to put uprights above 
> >> this room. We can only find
> >> section 8.15.1.2.1.1 explanation in handbook stating "evaluation of 
> >> size and number of openings
> >> in relation to the overall area of the ceiling is important". This 
> >> may be a decision he as AHJ will
> >> need to make. Structure above ceiling, of course, non-combustible.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help to keep us from adding uprights in this room
> >>
> >> Gayle Knowles, SET
> >> Project Manager
> >> Kaufman Fire Protection Systems. Inc. PH:505-884-2447
> >>
> >>
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