This is an older single story 3 family side-by-side structure. The 13R system 
is being retrofitted. I believe (am confirming) that they have local hard wired 
smoke detectors only. Located in MA.

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com

On May 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> NFPA 101:30.3.4.2.3    In buildings protected throughout by an approved, 
> supervised automatic sprinkler system in accordance with 30.3.5, required 
> fire alarm systems shall be initiated upon operation of the automatic 
> sprinkler system.
> 
> Someone will need to go through Section 30.3.4.3 for notification 
> requirements as they very based on the number of dwelling units, building 
> height, etc.
> 
> Ask for the code reference for the deficiency that is being noted. 
> 
> Here is the audibility requirement for sleeping areas:
> 
> NFPA 72: 18.4.5 Sleeping Area Requirements.   
> 18.4.5.1    Where audible appliances are installed to provide signals for 
> sleeping areas, they shall have a sound level of at least 15 dB above the 
> average ambient sound level or 5 dB above the maximum sound level having a 
> duration of at least 60 seconds or a sound level of at least 75 dBA, 
> whichever is greater, measured at the pillow level in the area required to be 
> served by the system using the A-weighted scale (dBA).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Duane Johnson, PE
> Program Manager
> Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor)
> Office of Research Services 
> National Institutes of Health 
> 301-496-0487
> 
> "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg McGahan [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 13R local alarm
> 
> mount it in the closet
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Todd - Work <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I was thinking that a 6" bell inside an apartment might be a little 
>> overkill as well as obtrusive.
>> 
>> Todd G Williams, PE
>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>> Stonington, CT
>> www.fpdc.com
>> 
>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Greg McGahan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am not sure what you are referring to exactly, but we often use a 
>>> flow switch wored to a 6" electric bell.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Todd - Work <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have an FM that wants local alarms for a 13R system within each 
>>>> unit
>> (3
>>>> family house). Any suggestions on a small wall mounted unit?
>>>> 
>>>> Todd G Williams, PE
>>>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>>>> Stonington, CT
>>>> www.fpdc.com
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