We had a local town home rule go into effect 15+ years ago requiring sprinklers in anything 3+ units "substantially" renovated but it forgot to mention annunciation (also forgot water supply). Many slick property owners got together and sued and after the dust settled, it was decided to put an electric bell in the stair lobby or main lobby of each unit plus the outside. No formal fire alarm was required. I've done the accessory relay to wire a dry contact to a 3 wire 120 vac smoke circuit but it voids the listing of the smokes, or did (been many years). These days Todd, I don't know how you could install a sprinkler system under current MA code and not have to install a formal 72 FA. 3 units or more requires supervision and central station in MA. TD
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Henke Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: 13R local alarm It may be possible to activate both the smoke alarms and a separate waterflow alarm. The flowswitch should have 2 sets of contacts. One switch can activate a local alarm such as the 120 vac mini horn The other switch may be able to activate the smoke alarms. This would provide the additional signal for waterflow so it wouldn't be confused with burnt toast. You probably have to contact the detector manufacturer to see how and if the detectors can be activated from a separate switch. They may have a separate module for this. There are some products on the market for this such as Firex but I don't know if they universally work with all makes and models of smoke alarms. There was also a carrier frequency device made by Cepco products for this. Regards, mike Mike Henke CET Sprinkler Product Manager Potter Electric Signal Co. www.pottersignal.com 314-595-6740 Direct -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: 13R local alarm What's the purpose of these "local alarms" ?, to alert the dwelling unit occupants ? First and foremost is a fire alarm system required in this building in accordance with IBC 907 ? If so then a fire alarm system is required pursuant to IBC 907 and accordingly notification appliances in accordance with IBC 907.5. If this is a jurisdictional dwelling unit occupant notification requirement outside the model code consider my previous comment to interconnect the waterflow switch with the dwelling unit smoke alarms which already meet the prescribed notification requirements of the IBC and or IRC. Hope this helps, John Drucker, CET Assistant Construction Official Fire Protection Subcode Official Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector Borough of Red Bank, New Jersey Office: 732-530-2760 X 331 Cell/Text: 732-904-6823 Email: [email protected] http://www.redbanknj.org CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone, return this message to the address above and delete all copies. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
