3.3.23 ('13) System working pressure. The maximum anticipated static 
(nonnflowing) or flowing pressure applied to the sprinkler system components 
exclusive of surge pressures and exclusive of pressure from the fire department 
connection. Isn't the occasional test run of an electric pump a "surge 
pressure"?
Ron F
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My first reaction is the churn pressure is the normal working pressure.  If you 
follow NFPA 20, the jockey pump is to be set at the churn pressure of the fire 
pump.  So normally, the jockey pump can maintain the churn pressure on the 
system.

Now to install a PRV for 3 psig????????????

In most of the areas we work, we also have to adjust to the pressure ratings to 
the high hydraulic gradient for the water supply.

John

John August Denhardt, P.E., FSFPE
Strickland Fire Protection Incorporated
5113 Berwyn Road
College Park, Maryland 20740
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3.8.1.9.2 Static Pressure. The pressure that exists at a given point under 
normal distribution system conditions measured ...
We have a project with an electric pump and when combined with the current 
water supply the churn pressure is 178 psi. A nationally known engineering firm 
wants us to install PRV's on the lowest level of the building because of the 3 
psi. Our position is that the pressure only exists at churn and that is similar 
to an overnight pressure surge in a municipal water system. The over pressure 
will be compensated for by the pressure relief valves once the pump stops. Are 
we being overly loose with our interpretation of "normal" or is the engineering 
firm correct?
Ron F  

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