This thing sounds like it had a lot of comprises, picking this rule from here and that rule from there, so, in short it meets no standard. Each standard pretty much states, "Thou shalt worship no standard other than this standard, unless it's a loftier standard, then refer to the first clause of this sentence." Or at the bottom of the menu. "No Substituions." Have the AHJ give you a list of what paragraphs from what standard apply (or at least which ones HE has modified) and quit trying to guess. Wearing a techie hat I have no problem with the EOR or the AHJ changing stuff, I just like to see it documented so 1. I know what they want, and 2. when it goes south I'm off the hook.
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Aaron Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > Mixed some 13 and some 13R. Mostly office and housing containers. There's > 1 kitchen located in a double wide container and 1 single container > washer/dryer. > > Sent from my iPhone > Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > Skype +1(202)407-9079 > Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Ed Kramer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > What is the design standard - 13, 13R, or 13D? > > > > Ed Kramer > > Lawrence, KS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Aaron > > Peck > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:37 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: System Check Valve > > > > It's a system acceptance. > > > > A FDC is another valid point but the circumstances may be an over riding > > factor. > > > > I'm was going to ask the AHJ about that but haven't until I'm able to go > > through the whole job. > > > > There's another thing, the containers are connected to the underground > via a > > black plastic pipe aboveground. I'm getting the submittals on that pipe > > tomorrow. And the underground has no way to be flushed or a pressure > gauge > > on the underground to do a pressure test. > > > > Just another day and another project. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > > Skype +1(202)407-9079 > > Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > > > >>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 4:45 PM, John Denhardt < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> What type of inspection are you performing; NFPA 25 or system acceptance > > per NFPA 13? > >> > >> John > >> > >> John August Denhardt, P.E., FSFPE > >> Strickland Fire Protection Incorporated > >> 5113 Berwyn Road > >> College Park, Maryland 20740 > >> Office Telephone Number: 301-474-1136 Mobile Telephone Number: > >> 301-343-1457 FIRE SPRINKLERS SAVE LIVES - Can you live without them? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > >> Aaron Peck > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:21 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: System Check Valve > >> > >> Hey group, this may be a dumb question but does a sprinkler system > "need" > > a check valve? > >> > >> I have a situation where there's several containerized housing side by > > side. Each container has it independent lead in and riser. > >> > >> None of the risers have check valves, only a valve, flow switch and > > test/drain valve. I'm doing an inspection and I'm not sure IF check > valves > > are necessary. I can't find anything in the code explicitly stating it > needs > > one. > >> > >> Since it's feed from one source, I'm checking for a main check valve/ > back > > flow now, and since it's more of a horizontal multi-story building lol > only > > 2 or 3 heads per floor. I don't think it's required. > >> > >> And besides just acting as a valve to prevent water leaving the system > > piping, I can't remember any other reason. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > >> Skype +1(202)407-9079 > >> Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > >> er.org _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > >> er.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
