The governmental AHJ(s) is restricted to only enforcing the law (i.e.: the code and local ordinances), of course we know some think they're Wyatt Earp as son as the Wizard gives them the gold shield (now there's a movie, "Wyatt Earp in Oz: he's Coming to Clean-Up the Emerald City"), but I digress. The insurance carrier can require any damned thing that strikes his fancy, painted purple with pink polka dots, anti-gravity diesel fuel, triple WMGs, you name it..... The big difference is for the owner, you know, the guy paying the bill..., he can't change governments but he can buy different insurance.
And Dewayne, the teacher in me won't let this pass, despite the fat that dog knows I make plenty of typos, and just plane misspell worlds, but unless those walls are at odds with one another hey ought not be dueling. :-p On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Is there.no exception in 20 if A double wall uL 142 tank. > Ron f > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:27 AM, "Richard Mote" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > We had the builder layup 3 or 4 courses of 8" CMU block and had them > coat the inside with a fuel proof coating. On one job they basically had > the inside fiber glassed. > > We just told the GC what was required in terms of cubic feet of > containment, and put back on them to build it. > > > > > > Richard Mote ET > > Design Manager > > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Martinez, > Dewayne > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:33 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Diesel fuel tank > > > > Was the containment nothing more than concrete curbs around the tank? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Bobby Gillett > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:30 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Diesel fuel tank > > > > The last couple FM projects I did also required both, and the > containment dike had to contain 130% of the capacity of the tank. > > > > Bobby Gillett > > *Living Water Fire Protection, LLC* > > 1160 McKenzie Rd. > > Cantonment, FL 32533 > > (850) 937-1850 > > livingwaterfp.com <http://livingwaterfp.com/> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Richard Mote > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> The last couple of FM jobs I've done required both a double wall tank > >> and a containment dike. > >> > >> NFPA 20, 2010 11.4.1.2.4 Fuel tansk shall be enclosed with a wall, > >> curb or dike sufficient to hold the entire capacity of the tank. > >> > >> This isn't in the 2007 edition at least not in the fuel tank section, > >> so it must be new. > >> > >> Richard Mote ET > >> Design Manager > >> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Martinez, > > > >> Dewayne > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:45 AM > >> To: SprinklerFORUM > >> Subject: Diesel fuel tank > >> > >> We have an existing system with a diesel fuel pump and tank(280gpm) > >> that was installed back in 1991. The insurance carrier is requesting > >> that either a new duel wall tank or a dike containment system be > > installed. > >> I have looked through NFPA 20 and didn't see anything requiring > > either. > >> Should I be looking in a different place? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dewayne > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > >> er.org _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > >> er.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler > > .org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
