He decided to "throw it away...." Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:45 PM, John Denhardt <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Funny but true story: > > I had a client who was worried about security with the test header > penetrating the exterior of the building. They had us remove the test header > after each test and store in the fire pump/mechanical room. We were > instructed to install a blind flange using sealant on the bolts so the blind > flange would not be easily removed. Well, the client decided to have the > area cleaned up. To everyone surprise, when showed up for the annual fire > pump system test, no test header was in the room. After the investigation, > the employee that cleaned the room said he did not know what it was but it > was big, heavy and had brass valves. He made the decision to throw it away. > > Amazing - you can not make this stuff up! > > John > > > John August Denhardt, P.E., FSFPE > Strickland Fire Protection Incorporated > 5113 Berwyn Road > College Park, Maryland 20740 > Office Telephone Number: 301-474-1136 > Mobile Telephone Number: 301-343-1457 > FIRE SPRINKLERS SAVE LIVES - Can you live without them? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David > Autry > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: pump test header valves > > LOL, I was think of one that I did, that had sixteen (16) valves. > > > David Autry > > Meininger Fire Protection Inc. > 2521 W L St. Suite No.4 > Lincoln, Ne 68522 > Voice (402) 466-2616 > Fax (402) 466-2617 > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > rongreenman . > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: pump test header valves > > Too bad, I was liking the 2 1/2" plastic pipe caps idea a lot. The > removing the entire test header is Ok but that has to be at least two and > probably three guys on anything bigger that a couple of three valves. > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Bobby McCullough < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> My mistake. The 2.5" plastic caps are hose threads & installed on the >> valve where only the caps were stolen, which is common. I only have a >> few projects with valves stolen & there we used threaded ductile caps >> on the nipples & locked the valves in the pump room. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Ben Young >> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: pump test header valves >> >> Bobby, >> >> Do you mean screw-on PVC caps, or the plastic break caps for FDC snoots? >> >> Thanks for the feeback everyone, I didn't realize this was so common. >> I'll have to start recommending this to some of our clients in high >> theft areas from now on. >> >> >> Benjamin Young >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Bobby McCullough >> <[email protected] >>> wrote: >> >>> We use 2.5" plastic caps. Not much value at the scrap yard. Take >>> the >> >>> valves in the pump room and use a bicycle cable & lock to keep them >>> from wandering off. >>> >>> Bobby McCullough >>> Atlanta Sprinkler >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Morey, Mike >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:49 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: pump test header valves >>> >>> They make test header outlets with male threaded outlets (basically >>> the opposite of an FDC) with hose caps that you remove and then >>> screw on hose valves that have a female swivel on the inlet side. >>> Of course >> >>> there's still the risk of someone stealing the hose caps and/or >>> brass adapteer fittings that provide the male hose thread, but at >>> least the valves aren't sitting out there too. >>> >>> Mike Morey, CFPS, SET >>> Planner Scheduler/Designer >>> BMWC Constructors, Inc. >>> 1740 W. Michigan St, Indianapolis, IN 46222 >>> O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111 >>> [email protected] | www.bmwc.com >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> on behalf of Ben >>> Young <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:40 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: pump test header valves >>> >>> Last week I was at an ASCET meeting where a pump presentation was >> given. >>> >>> Someone asked the presenter if it was allowed to remove the test >>> header valves and keep them in the pump room to stop them from being >> stolen. >>> >>> The presenter and few other attendees chimed in that this was ok, >>> and nothing in 20 or 25 said the valves had to be constantly in place. >>> >>> I didn't think of it at the time, but now I'm asking myself how then >>> do you keep debris out of the test header? The only thing I can >>> think >> >>> of is that you would have to cap the nipples or if you remove the >>> nipples, plug the holes in the test header. This sounds like it >>> will cause problems down the road to me. >>> >>> Have you guys ever seen this done before? >>> >>> Benjamin Young >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin >>> kl >>> er >>> .org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin >>> kl >>> er >>> .org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin >>> kl >>> er.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >> er >> .org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >> er.org > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. 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