Understood...here in PA, I think we are stuck in 2007 edition for the 
foreseeable future.

I have been in situations where the AHJ arbitrarily informed the GCs in lieu of 
providing the proper rated doors, walls, etc. they could just put some extra 
sprinklers in. It got dumped on the sprinkler contractor because it was cheaper 
to add sprinklers than a big rated door.

Used to be a lot more commonplace than it is now. 

Good to know and thanks for clarifying.

Best Regards,
Ken Holsopple

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Roland Huggins
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Atrium

I’m just saying there has been a lot of movement since the 2007 edition 
especially noting other codes/standards casual use of words like Water Curtain 
where one would NOT suffice.  I suspect it was a discussion of fruit and they 
were thinking apples but calling it an orange without realizing that the 
industry and 13 had a very specific application for oranges.

The issue of wetting the entire surface has always been there like a rusty 
metal trap waiting to give you bout of tetanus.

Roland


Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>





> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Ken Holsopple <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If Section 404.6  (see below) of the IBC prescribes the closely spaced 
> sprinklers and the architect choses that instead of the other options listed 
> to protect the atrium, then is it that big of a jump to apply Sections 8.15.4 
> and 11.3.3 out of NFPA 13? (2007 edition.)

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