Definitely out of our control but I was looking for the differences between the 
(2) calculations. I know the fire flow takes into account the building 
construction, adjacent structures, etc. etc. etc.

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
bvssytemsinc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's

Check the IBC/IFC (index... not sure what section). Fire Flow is the amount of 
water required to be delivered by the fire hydrants for the FD to spray on  a 
burning building. The amount required is dictated by the code, but the actual 
water available is determined entirely by the underground piping. Unless you 
are providing or designing the underground loops around the building, it is 
probably out of  your control.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II  
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO 
 
913.888.0647 ph 
913.888.0618 f 
913.526.7443 cell 
www. AFPsprink.com 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's

Can someone please put into laymen's terms the difference between doing a fire 
flow demand calc for the underground and the hydraulic calc's for the sprinkler 
system? We have been running into some projects lately where the civil engineer 
tries to pawn sizing the underground off onto the sprinkler contractor. I try 
telling them that's their responsibility not ours but I'd like something more 
definitive to have on hand.

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Sprinkler Division
bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
Phone: 704.896.9989
Fax: 704.896.1935

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