The fire flow estimates the amount of water needed (or in other words, the amount of water that will be provided) at the hydrant for fire protection purposes which will include manual firefighting and/or automatic fire protection (sprinkler/standpipe). While the sprinkler calcs (typically) start at the available hydrant and size the pipes internally for the automatic sprinkler system.
Duane Johnson, PE Design Manager Strickland Fire Protection 5113 Berwyn Road College Park, MD 20740 301-474-1136 Office 301-455-0010 Cell -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's Definitely out of our control but I was looking for the differences between the (2) calculations. I know the fire flow takes into account the building construction, adjacent structures, etc. etc. etc. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's Check the IBC/IFC (index... not sure what section). Fire Flow is the amount of water required to be delivered by the fire hydrants for the FD to spray on a burning building. The amount required is dictated by the code, but the actual water available is determined entirely by the underground piping. Unless you are providing or designing the underground loops around the building, it is probably out of your control. Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II Sales Engineer Alliance Fire Protection 130 w 9th Ave. North Kansas City, MO 64116 *Licensed in KS & MO 913.888.0647 ph 913.888.0618 f 913.526.7443 cell www. AFPsprink.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's Can someone please put into laymen's terms the difference between doing a fire flow demand calc for the underground and the hydraulic calc's for the sprinkler system? We have been running into some projects lately where the civil engineer tries to pawn sizing the underground off onto the sprinkler contractor. I try telling them that's their responsibility not ours but I'd like something more definitive to have on hand. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. Sprinkler Division bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
