Ron-
I totally agree. We've ran into a couple instances where the civil site utility 
plan shows the underground size but then has a note that the fire sprinkler 
contractor has to verify it will work. I've been telling the GC the civil 
engineer is responsible for it but they keep pointing to the note on the plans 
that says we have to verify it will work. I tell them I'll verify it'll work 
for the sire sprinkler system but that's it, I'm not on the hook for anything 
else that is supplied by the same underground.

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
bvssytemsinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ron Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fire Flow vs Hydraulic calc's

It's in Appendix B of IFC and is definitely in the realm of A/E team. Fire 
flow, hydrant spacing etc.. Is required for building permits (usually) and the 
fire line size should have been determined well before a sprinkler contractor 
was involved.

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> On Dec 22, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Can someone please put into laymen's terms the difference between doing a 
> fire flow demand calc for the underground and the hydraulic calc's for the 
> sprinkler system? We have been running into some projects lately where the 
> civil engineer tries to pawn sizing the underground off onto the sprinkler 
> contractor. I try telling them that's their responsibility not ours but I'd 
> like something more definitive to have on hand.
> 
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> Sprinkler Division
> bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
> Phone: 704.896.9989
> Fax: 704.896.1935
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