Thanks Ron. The commentary on pg. 396 is interesting also. I found this link, which is a NIST compilation of elevator/fire research:
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/elevator_publications.cfm I looked at 'Elevators and Sprinklers' and it appears to be where a lot of the current requirements came from. Brad -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: can sidewalls be installed when not located next to a wall? Not much interpretation there Brad. Sidewalls no more than two feet off the floor of all elevator pits. The annex says best under the door opening wall but to watch out to not interfere with the toe guard. Awfully clear. Then go to 8.15.5.2 and it sys you can ignore 8.15.5.1 if there is no hydraulic fluid. Again clear. Cable hoists nothing in the pit. Hydraulic elevators (presuming the the lifting mechanism is in the pit, which it always is) require them I could care less about listings or hazards classifications here. This is a unique space that is clearly addressed in the standard. Remember that since the standard went ISO their can be no lists of exceptions, only positive directions that say what you shall do, not what you don't have to do. -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
