I work internationally and across the US. I guess I should have stated this location is not in SC.
Sorry for any confusion. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2M 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville, SC 29607 Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 CH2MHILL Extension 77540 [email protected] From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Installing non-required systems [EXTERNAL] Per web site for SC building Codes the following information is provided: Every municipality and county in South Carolina must enforce the mandatory building codes referenced in Section 6-9-50 of the South Carolina Code of Laws, 1976 as Amended (SC Code), after they are reviewed and adopted by the Building Codes Council (Council). Municipalities and counties are restricted from writing or publishing anyother building code, in whole or in part or adopting and enforcing building codes other than those referenced in Section 6- 9-50 of the SC Code. Unless modified by the Council, all chapters (except the Administrative Chapter) of all codes must be enforced in their entirety. Under the provisions of SC Code 6-9-30 , a municipality or county may be able to “opt out” of the Code Enforcement Program if it can qualify under the terms of that section. Only the mandatory building codes listed below are adopted by the Council and enforced at the local level. Any code used to regulate the construction or alteration of buildings or structures, including their systems or components, not listed below are not valid and cannot be legally promulgated, adopted or enforced by a local jurisdiction. On August 26, 2014 the Council updated the mandatory building codes to be used within South Carolina. The Council established the implementation date for local jurisdictions as July 1, 2016 for all codes. All local jurisdictions must enforce the mandatory codes, and may adopt and enforce the permissive codes. According to the SC web site the following are the Mandatory Building Codes adopted for current use in South Carolina and which must be enforced by all municipalities and counties, beginning July 1, 2016, include the: 2015 South Carolina or International Building Code with SC modifications; 2015 South Carolina or International Residential Code with SC modifications; 2015 South Carolina or International Fire Code with SC modifications; 2015 South Carolina or International Plumbing Code with SC modifications; 2015 South Carolina or International Mechanical Code with SC modifications; 2009 International Energy Conservation Code; 2015 South Carolina or International Fuel Gas Code with SC modifications; and, 2014 National Electrical Code. Have a fire safe day! Jim Davidson Associates Fire Protection Engineering P. O. Box 4002 Code Consultants Greenville, DE 19807 (302) 994-9500 Fax (302) 994-3414 CONFIDENTIALITY This report and any attachments are confidential and also may be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, or have otherwise received this report in error, please destroy the report, notify the sender immediately, and do not disclose its contents to any other person, use them for any purpose, or store or copy them in any medium. Thank you for your cooperation. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:01 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Installing non-required systems Well here’s the kicker, since the LSC is the prevailing Building Code and the LSC does not require sprinklers, NFPA 13 is irrelevant as far as mandatory compliance. Also in this part of the country State law allows the owner to act as the AHJ on their property if there is no local municipal AHJ. Do you see why I’m having so much fun with this one? 13 doesn’t direct what occupancies get sprinklered, that’s the building or fire code or in this case the Life Safety Code. The LSC allows the occupancy in question to be constructed with no sprinkler requirement. My guess is that this was an internal Safety Group directive by someone who felt sprinklers would be beneficial in the warehouse part of the building only but who also had no real knowledge of installations or requirements and the contractor just did as he was asked. There is no documentation and no one on the site from when this work was done. So the best I can come up with are recommendations for their consideration but they are not constrained by any laws or codes to take any of the recommendations. Personally I do love the fact that this is an area where you are not constrained by a million laws regulating every aspect of your life but from a code study and analysis standpoint, it creates a real challenge. Thanks to all for the ideas, thoughts and recommendations, Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2M 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville, SC 29607 Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 CH2MHILL Extension 77540 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:28 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Installing non-required systems [EXTERNAL] I think your path would be where 13 specifies all areas must be sprinklers unless specifically omitted. So you have the areas you would normally exclude if they meet the specified criteria in 13 or if the jurisdiction has a specific ordinance allowing you leave an area unprotected. Seattle used to have a life safety provision for retrofit of hotels and group homes where you just sprinklered the hllls and ran a head into each unit over the door. On Wednesday, July 27, 2016, Parsley Consulting <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Craig, I don't know where that exists, however my concern would be that you'll still need to establish a standard for design, including coverage areas, calculations, materials, and on and on. I haven't done anything like that in more than a decade so I'd be interested to see what you come up with. Ken Wagoner, SET Parsley Consulting 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 Escondido, California 92025 Phone 760-745-6181 Visit our website<http://www.parsleyconsulting.com/> On 07/27/2016 2:58 PM, [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: Somewhere within NFPA 13 I recall seeing a statement which says basically that if you install a system voluntarily (not required by Code) it must still be installed per the NFPA Standard. Anyone know where that is, I’ve hunted all over and can’t find it within either the 2010 or 2013 NFPA 13 editions. Craig L. 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