https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5fJ1lCVE98

Looks like a decent kick to me.

Scott

>> So what is this jet effect that is going to lift the sprinkler? The forces 
>> on this sprinkler are going to be the end pressure force and any momentum 
>> change force.
>> 
>> Lets say this is a 5.6k sprinkler having a .438” diameter orifice. The 
>> orifice area is about 0.1507 square inches. That is about 1lb for 7 psi and 
>> about 12 lbs for 80 psi since those pressure numbers are gage pressure 
>> referenced from atmosphere pressure. The orifice end pressure force must be 
>> why we have the last sprinkler surge restraint rule where there is not much 
>> piping for counter balance.
>> 
>> Now what is the momentum change? The water comes streaming out the nozzle 
>> and slams into the deflector that is connected to the nozzle. There is a 
>> canceling out. Then the water changes momentum to go radially. Lets say that 
>> is equal in all directions. So the radial  momentum changes cancel each 
>> other. Think of a Hose Monster. The momentum change situation is not the 
>> same as that of hose nozzle stream needing some beef to hold it.
>> 
>> It would not take much to demonstrate this. Take a flex drop and operate it 
>> with an open sprinkler and compare to operating it also with a busted off 
>> sprinkler that has no deflector and arms. Pick a nice hot day to do this.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Richard Mote <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a AHJ <> that is questioning the use of Flex Drops especially the 
>>> Victaulic ones. He says that they are so flexible that when a sprinkler 
>>> goes off the jet effect is going to lift the sprinkler up through the 
>>> ceiling. I told him that the drops are mechanically attached to the ceiling 
>>> grid and in order to lift up they would have to lift the entire weight of 
>>> the ceiling grid, ceiling tiles, the lights and HVAC diffusers. His answer 
>>> prove, it either by letter from the manufacturer or from someone a lot 
>>> higher up the food chain than either he or I am. Or something specific in 
>>> NFPA <> 13 that says he is wrong.
>>> 
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