Also a good point. Even if they were each 100 square feet, 14 heads is too many. My best guess is that he meant 4, not 14, but Troy, please clarify.
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: ELIMINATION OF SPRINKLERS IN CLOSETS FOR HYDRAULIC CALCULATIONS Point taken. But where does the 14 sprinklers saved come in? From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:50 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: ELIMINATION OF SPRINKLERS IN CLOSETS FOR HYDRAULIC CALCULATIONS OP said 10 square foot closets. Not 10’x10’, which would be 100 square feet. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Denhardt Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:24 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ELIMINATION OF SPRINKLERS IN CLOSETS FOR HYDRAULIC CALCULATIONS I fully agree with Steve. These sprinklers, if in the remote area, need to be calculated. John Sent from my iPad On Sep 21, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The math doesn’t add up – how would eliminating sprinklers for four 10’x10’ closets save 14 sprinklers in the DA? Notwithstanding those metrics, these are not small clothes closets, they are repositories for people’s “stuff”. You have a prevailing ordinary hazard with accessory miscellaneous storage for lack of a better classification. I respectfully disagree that eliminating sprinklers is consistent with the intent of the reference section. 100 sq. ft. packed with camping gear and seasonal toys is a very different condition from an interior closet that might only be 15-25 sq. ft in area. Steve Leyton From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Maneen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:05 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: ELIMINATION OF SPRINKLERS IN CLOSETS FOR HYDRAULIC CALCULATIONS If you are using the full design area, that is what that provision is for. I’m referring to 23.4.4.7.2 in the 2016 Edition of NFPA 13. Nick Maneen, SET c 704.791.7789 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trillium Fire Sprinkler Design Inc. Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:48 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: ELIMINATION OF SPRINKLERS IN CLOSETS FOR HYDRAULIC CALCULATIONS I have a 3 story living condo. There are 4 units which each have an open parking garage under the 2nd floor. Along the back wall are 4 (10sqft ) closets. The engineer is asking for a dry system designed to .15/1950. Just want to know what everyone's thoughts are about not including the sprinklers in these closets. Using the provision 23.4.4.6.2 It would allow me to eliminate 14 sprinklers from my calculation area. Regards Troy _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwMGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=yBZi7C2odazwtUOuttcLGJQomY3Ffxxuc9sNR2U-ySo&s=MFz0bmyJEhCj7mZBwGypo9SwK2uKWFH96akCDrC3kBo&e=>
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