I agree with you, but I have an AHJ who is allowing a church to store in an attic protected by Viking Attic Sprinklers (The occupancy was not part of the original plan). Looking for some ammo and was hoping I could find something specific in the literature. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-553-3553 (fax) 860-608-4559 (cell)
> > On Jun 28, 2019 at 1:46 PM, <RME-G Travis Mack (mailto:[email protected])> > wrote: > > > > > > Based on talks I have had with Globe and Tyco reps on this issue, I think > you are in a losing battle. These are specially listed for attic fire > loads. These are not for any pitched roof that fits the slope requirements. > > > > > > > > > (http://www.mfpdesign.com/) > > > > Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET > > > > MFP Design, LLC > > > > 3356 E Vallejo Ct > > > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > > > 480-505-9271 > > > > fax: 866-430-6107 > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > www.mfpdesign.com > > > > > > > > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hightail.com%2Fu%2FMFPDesign&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=eGdMZGu2wXhUupGwgGTrqF3b54OP5%2BAZvlHhABSexWY%3D&reserved=0) > > > > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftravismack&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=tT5E7LsZjSmyreKi4gDCa70EWN%2BZodi%2FhbeCbHNRijI%3D&reserved=0) > > > > > > > > “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price > is forgotten.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Fpdcdesign > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:44 AM > To: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Attic sprinklers > > > > > > > > > > > I have looked in both the Viking and Tyco literature and it just says > “attic”. No reference to anything beyond that. > > > > > > > > > > > > The dictionary definition of attic makes no reference to what is in the > space. > > > > > > > > Todd G Williams, PE > > > > > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > > > > > Stonington, CT > > > > > > 860-535-2080 (ofc) > > > > > > 860-553-3553 (fax) > > > > > > 860-608-4559 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2019 at 1:40 PM, <Steve Leyton > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Or a Viking rep … > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sprinklerforum > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Travis Mack, SET, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:39 AM > > To: [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > Subject: RE: Attic sprinklers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If occupied, I would say it is not an attic any longer. If > > there is no ceiling, it is not a concealed space. These are specially > > listed concealed space sprinklers. A call to Tyco technical services > > would clear it up for you if that is not enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (http://www.mfpdesign.com/) > > > > > > > > Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET > > > > > > > > MFP Design, LLC > > > > > > > > 3356 E Vallejo Ct > > > > > > > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > > > > > > > 480-505-9271 > > > > > > > > fax: 866-430-6107 > > > > > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > > > > > www.mfpdesign.com (http://www.mfpdesign.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hightail.com%2Fu%2FMFPDesign&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=eGdMZGu2wXhUupGwgGTrqF3b54OP5%2BAZvlHhABSexWY%3D&reserved=0) > > > > > > > > > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftravismack&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=tT5E7LsZjSmyreKi4gDCa70EWN%2BZodi%2FhbeCbHNRijI%3D&reserved=0) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low > > price is forgotten.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])> On Behalf Of > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:37 AM > > To: [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > Subject: RE: Attic sprinklers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it’s ‘occupied’, is it still considered an attic? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cliff Whitfield, SET > > > > > > > > President > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fire Design, Inc. > > > > > > > > 184 Comfort Place > > > > > > > > Burnsville, NC 28714 > > > > > > > > Ph: 828-284-4772 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])> On Behalf Of > > Fpdcdesign > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 1:34 PM > > To: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])> > > Subject: Attic sprinklers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where in NFPA 13 or in their listings are attic sprinklers restricted to > > unoccupied attic spaces? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todd G Williams, PE > > > > > > > > > > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > > > > > > > > > > > Stonington, CT > > > > > > > > > > > > 860-535-2080 (ofc) > > > > > > > > > > > > 860-553-3553 (fax) > > > > > > > > > > > > 860-608-4559 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > (https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing > > list [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >
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