Yes, my apologies for seeming to ignore the other things you've mentioned. I
have been following the discussion but not as closely as I should have.
Hopefully I've explained my concerns a little better in my previous email.

The followups seem to suggest to that there is more information on backwards
compatibility than I thought. If those items are comprehensive then I should
probably volunteer to write the test cases for them. Would that be of any
use?

Matt.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@;telocity.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 16:20
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and <html:html>



You have apparently missed
1. other discussions
2. commits
3. bugzilla comments about XHTML

> Try this in Netscape 4.x and then in IE 4-6.
>
> <html><body>Line 1<br/>Line2</body></html>
>

Try it this way:

<html><body>Line 1<br />Line2</body></html>
                    ^^^
notice the difference


James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Read [mailto:mread@;spotd.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and <html:html>
>
>
> I don't agree I'm afraid. I'm also fairly aware of the difference
> between CSS
> and XHTML. Try this in Netscape 4.x and then in IE 4-6.
>
> <html><body>Line 1<br/>Line2</body></html>
>
> Matt.
>
> Quoting "Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I think this is a very common misconception.  It is very likely that the
> > problems you were experiencing with XHTML were because of CSS that was
> > not supported by netscape.
> >
> > XHTML is very cross-browser friendly, and if you use XHTML transitional,
> > then you can still even use the dreaded <font> tags if you want. =)
> >
> > My suggestion would be that the <html:html> tag generate
> > XHTML-transitional by default and have a "type" attribute that can be
> > set to "strict", "transitional", or "frameset" as needed.
> >
> > ---
> > - Nayan Hajratwala
> > - Chikli Consulting LLC
> > - http://www.chikli.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Read [mailto:mread@;spotd.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:33 AM
> > To: Struts Developers List
> > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and <html:html>
> >
> >
> > In my experience XHTML does not work in older browsers, specifically
> > Netscape
> > 4.x and I would be very concerned if an upgrade to Struts 1.1 gave me no
> > choice
> > in using XHTML.
> >
> > Matt.
> >
> > Quoting David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > XML compliant HTML is XHTML.  I don't think we need the xhtml
> > attribute
> > > for
> > > the tag anymore.  Because xhtml works in current and older browsers,
> > I
> > > think
> > > the tags should produce it every time.  Many people do not use the
> > > <html:html> tag so it doesn't make sense to require that to use
> > xhtml.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: HTML, XML, XHTML and <html:html>
> > > >Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:43:30 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I'm a little confused about what's going on with our HTML taglib. I
> > > see
> > > >changes being made so that the tags always output valid XML,
> > regardless
> > > of
> > > >the value of the 'xhtml' attribute of the <html:html> tag.
> > > >
> > > >Have we decided that we don't need that attribute any more, and
> > we'll
> > > just
> > > >always output XHTML, or is there a difference that I'm missing
> > > between
> > > >generating XML-compliant HTML and generating XHTML?
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Martin Cooper
> > > >
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