Larry S. wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Chris Ilias wrote on 04-06-17 01:37:
>>> On 2017-06-03 4:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> rickman wrote on 03-06-17 17:42:
>>>>> Ray_Net wrote on 6/3/2017 11:26 AM:
>>>>>> mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 03-06-17 15:32:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like Joe has solved the problem, but just to clear up this
>>>>>>> point... mail and newsgroup posts are not sent via the same
>>>>>>> server. Mail
>>>>>>> is sent to an SMTP server (and received via a POP or IMAP server).
>>>>>>> Newsgroup posts are sent to an NNTP server (and received via the same
>>>>>>> server). It's entirely possible to post to an NNTP (newsgroup) server
>>>>>>> without a working SMTP (outbound mail) server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice to know that. Thanks. Now I better understand why the OP was
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> send a post and not able to send a mail.
>>>>>> Here to post this message to news.mozilla.org I used the SMTP server
>>>>>> provided by my ISP.
>>>>>> How is it possible to post to news.mozilla.org without using an
>>>>>> SMTP server ?
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition newsgroups are accessed through the NNTP protocol
>>>>> which is implemented on news servers. That is a separate means from
>>>>> SMTP which is implemented on email servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know newsgroups can be posted to using email clients, i.e. sending
>>>>> an email because I did this when I started using newsgroups. I
>>>>> don't know if you can read messages by email though. I don't know
>>>>> if this requires a special email program that actually sends the
>>>>> message by NNTP or if email has to be addressed to a server that
>>>>> converts between SMTP and NNTP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that any more clear?
>>>>
>>>> Yes and no :-)
>>>> In fact, I will be interested to know HOW TO post here to
>>>> news.mozilla.org by using SeaMonkey without using any SMTP server ?
>>>
>>> Both mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com and rickman have stated
>>> that newsgroups don't use SMTP. I'm not sure why you don't believe them.
>>>
>>> You asked how:
>>> 1. Go to a newsgroup.
>>> 2. Click "Compose".
>>> 3. Type your message, and click Send.
>>> That's how. :)
>>>
>>> You can test it by creating a new SeaMonkey profile, and creating a
>>> newsgroups account for news.mozilla.org with no SMTP server, then
>>> sending a post to mozilla.test.
>>>
>>>
>> I finally believed them, but MY news-group account to access
>> news.mozilla.org have my ISP smtp server written in the SM options for
>> this account.
>> I just look at that option and the only choices are all my smtp servers
>> and "Use Default Server" there is no "No SMTP server".
> When reading your posting, I go to Edit>Mail and News Groups Account Settings
> and under
> news.mozilla.org I click on Server Settings. There I read "news.mozilla.org"
> (under the heading
> Server Type: News Server). Do you get something different?
> Larry S.
That is what I have using Port 119. Also have a separate one for
news.eternal-september.org. Neither
are using SMTP
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