Well, we don't need to get hyper-paranoid about it. Apple have defined channel IDs for WXYZ, which goes no further than make it possible to create a 1st-order CAF file. CAF is not closed, the spec is fully open and documented. It is supported in libsndfile (along with AMB), among other things. I might even add it to the CDP m/c toolkit, if anyone is still actually using it. There is no indication they have any interest in providing an in-house codec for B-Format - which would nevertheless be a strong way to establish it in the "mainstream'.

Those who want Ambisonics to become more widely established (aka "mainstream") will need to talk to those who want it to remain a niche process for the cognoscenti. To do the former will by definition require some company or other to support it and present some de-facto standard implementation. If it is pitched on the basis that most of the speakers will just present subtle degree of ambience, which many listeners might not notice at all, any more than they do in the concert hall or rock venue, I suspect its commercial appeal will be negligible.

I suspect that if Dolby et al, rather than define a single 5.1 surround format, had proposed umpteen options, arbitrary speaker positions, multiple user options for encoding and decoding, etc, the format would very likely not have been taken up at all. Sometimes choice is a good thing, but sometimes it is not. Every decision an implementer has to take, every option they have either to adopt or disregard, will reduce their enthusiasm for the thing by 50%, progressively. 5.1 is a shoo-in as there is just the one thing to implement, which everyone will use. Even 7.1 is a problem as there are a whopping two alternative layouts around.

B-format has so many options and permutations available that the commercial enthusiasm factor will be down to 0.1% or less. So there is absolutely no danger at all of Apple "locking in" B-Format as it is all but un-lockable. That jelly+tree thing again.

What you might get, on the other hand, is a hardware-based turnkey system aimed at a very specific market, such as IOSONO or Immsound, where they tell you only the absolute minimum information required to run the system, and it is probably closed beyond the possibility of opening.

Unless of course they publish a file format for it....

Richard Dobson


On 03/04/2012 19:14, Robert Greene wrote:

I agree. My appeal for material to listen to
was not intended as a call to get Apple to take
over. The blood curdles.
Robert

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Marc Lavall?e wrote:


I would fear an "applelization" of ambisonics. Apple could impose its
own "ok" format (probably as a CAF "chunk" specification) with patents
and lock-ins, because it's a common practice in the audio industry. Not
everything in this world needs to be mainstream (but that's just my
opinion).

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