Thats pretty impressive Richard - I would definately consider this system in future for indoor stuff. In terms of interactive and automation - I do that in MaxMSP mostly - so we have things like an accelerometer on your hand and wherever you point there is a sound etc etc - you also have a map of the speakers and pan around that map (using Dbap basically) - Ive seen a lot of third party systems that do automation etc - but I am already pretty happy with max for interactive 3D audio - theres nothing Ive found I couldnt do yet ! But I guess I could integrate max easily enough with the AVB system.
On 29 June 2017 at 22:28, Richard Foss <r.f...@ru.ac.za> wrote: > One other thing - you mentioned wanting to move audio channels in real > time - you can move up to 32 channels around in the speaker space, using a > client-server program called Immergo. The server runs on the Mac and the > client on the Mac or a remote tablet - its web browser based, so you type > in a URL. You successively select tracks and move them around a > representation of your speaker space. You can record and play back the > movements. The movements are realized via mixer matrices in the speakers. > > So its two different approaches you can use - pre-prepared channels with > movement incorporated (guess you would use the terminology ‘bed channels’) > or channels that can be moved via the mixer matrices (object audio style), > where metadata containing time stamped 3D coords is recorded. > > Richard. > > > On 29 Jun 2017, at 10:52 PM, Richard Foss <r.f...@ru.ac.za> wrote: > > > > That’s correct Augustine - just the Ethernet out the Mac. That will go > into an Ethernet AVB compliant PoE+ switch (extreme, netgear etc). > > > > The SPK-4Ps will be connected to other ports of the switch. You can link > together switches for larger port numbers. > > > > > > > > > >> On 29 Jun 2017, at 10:25 PM, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Richard - > >> So if I have this right no interface is required - just the ethernet > out of > >> the mac ? > >> > >> On 29 June 2017 at 20:49, Richard Foss <r.f...@ru.ac.za <mailto: > r.f...@ru.ac.za>> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Augustine, to answer this question about the SPK-4Ps: > >>> > >>>> can you daisy chain them (as discrete channels) or would you have to > run > >>> a seperate ethernet cable to each one? > >>> > >>> You would run a separate Ethernet cable from a switch to each one. So > for > >>> example, running a DAW on a Mac, you would output your tracks to the > >>> outputs made available by the Mac AVB virtual audio entity, and each > >>> speaker would listen to one of the outputs. > >>> > >>> You would use PoE+, not PoE, and each speaker is powered by a Merus > audio > >>> Eximo amplifier, providing 30W. With the Mac you could connect up to > 120 > >>> speakers. You also have the possibility of connecting a separate > passive > >>> speaker to the powered one, providing 2 x 15W. > >>> > >>> Here is a bit more info: > >>> > >>> http://www.technologyintegrator.net/article/immersivedsp- > >>> integrates-merus-audio-eximo-amp-minidsp-spk-4p-speaker/ <http://www < > http://www/>. > >>> technologyintegrator.net/article/immersivedsp- < > http://technologyintegrator.net/article/immersivedsp-> > >>> integrates-merus-audio-eximo-amp-minidsp-spk-4p-speaker/> > >>> > >>> Richard. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 6:38 PM, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> aye - and that would kind of defeat the advantage of it - Ill stick to > >>>> passive for now - Ive always found active speakers a bit of a pain for > >>>> larger site specific stuff because you have to run power to them as > well > >>>> as audio. > >>>> These look like they might be OK for some stuff : > >>>> > >>>> https://www.immersivedsp.com/products/spk-4p > >>>> > >>>> but Im a bit unsure as to what exactly they can do - can you daisy > chain > >>>> them (as discrete channels) or would you have to run a seperate > ethernet > >>>> cable to each one ? > >>>> > >>>> On 29 June 2017 at 17:04, Dave Hunt <davehuntau...@btinternet.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that you'll find that an active speaker with an AVB input > will > >>>>> require more current than can be supplied over an ethernet cable. > >>> Perhaps > >>>>> for very small speakers with a low power digital amplifier, but > anything > >>>>> decent would require mains (or DC batteries) to the speaker. > >>>>> > >>>>> The available current may power the DAC though. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ciao, > >>>>> > >>>>> Dave > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> Date: 28 June 2017 22:06:52 BDT > >>>>>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Multichannel players for permanent > >>> installations > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Richard - > >>>>>> There is lots of things that pan all around the room but the > >>> soundscape is > >>>>>> designed in pre production for this installation and then its just a > >>>>>> multichannel file (or seperate mono ones). Other installations I do > are > >>>>>> interactive and so sounds are processed and panned in realtime > around > >>> the > >>>>>> space depending on the sensors used etc. Certainly the AVB thing > might > >>> be > >>>>>> good for some less inhospitable environments- I especially like the > way > >>>>>> power can be taken to the the speakers via the ethernet cable..... > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>>> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachme > >>>>> nts/20170629/0e011d85/attachment.html> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sursound mailing list > >>>>> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >>>>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > >>>>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Augustine Leudar > >>>> Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > >>>> Company Number : NI635217 > >>>> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > >>>> Belfast BT88LL > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > >>> attachments/20170629/5b094292/attachment.html> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sursound mailing list > >>>> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >>>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/> > >>> attachments/20170629/a3a9354f/attachment.html> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sursound mailing list > >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu <mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound> - unsubscribe here, > >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Augustine Leudar > >> Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > >> Company Number : NI635217 > >> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > >> Belfast BT88LL > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20170629/e501836d/attachment.html <https://mail.music.vt.edu/ > mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170629/e501836d/attachment.html>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sursound mailing list > >> Sursound@music.vt.edu <mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound> - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20170629/73cc7217/attachment.html> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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