Thats interesting - ive always wanted to hear transaural actually working - I've only tried Spat. However this would require the content producers (sound designers) to actually add HRTFs and use software to render trnasaural filters the same as binaural - and most d not , genrally its just the same stereo content used on two speakers produced over a soundbar. Even a soundbar isnt intelligent enough to decide which sounds should appear where, marvelous though they are.
On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 01:55, Aaron Heller <ajhel...@gmail.com> wrote: > The soundbars I've heard sound like they use crosstalk cancellation (aka > transaural stereo) to achieve surround effects. I believe the work of Edgar > Choueiri and his students at Princeton represents the state of the art in > that area. > https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/index.html > > Also Ralph Glasgal, an occasional poster on sursound -- > http://www.ambiophonics.org > > Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) > Menlo Park, CA US > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 4:43 PM Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Douglas - > > I dont think he was referring to Atmos soundbars just Atmos in general . > > Atmos will of course work nicely being a 9.1 (or is it 11.1 ?) bed with > > objects operating within that over an unlimited number of speakers (or > is > > it 128 max) - as such its true surround (in that the speakers od > actually > > surround the litener); . > > However its not particularily innovative in that it combines stuff thats > > been around for years - (ambisonics can decode to different speaker > arrays > > from one file for example and I assume the objects move around using > > amplitude panning). Then youve got things like DBAP which have the > > potential to create far more convincing 3D audio scenes that ATMOS and > > thats been around a lot longer. > > But no here we just refer to soundbars in general I think. I find it very > > unlikely though that an "ATMOS" soundbar would give the impression of a > > sound being behind the listener than a basical quad setup where there > > actually are two speakers behind the listener. > > I agree placebo definately plays a role in a lot of spatial audio. > > > > On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 22:00, Douglas Murray <dmur...@well.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2019, at 12:09 PM, mgraves mstvp.com <mgra...@mstvp.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > See also Dolby Atmos. Yet another triumph of marketing over reality. > > > Dolby is especially good in that arena. > > > > > > > > Michael Graves > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > Are you referring to the Dolby Atmos sound bars and ceiling bouncing > > > speakers? If so I agree. But as a film sound designer, I don’t believe > I am > > > succumbing to marketing hype when I say that Dolby Atmos in a cinema > > > setting, with its full range surrounds and speakers in what were gaps > near > > > the screen, is a real improvement over other earlier surround formats > for > > > cinema. Clearly Dolby is trying to generate profits from the mass home > > > market rather than only from the small cinema world. It’s probable that > any > > > sound bar, whether “Atmos” or not, will be an upgrade for whomever buys > it, > > > so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s the > > > placebo effect that makes these things work? > > > > > > Doug Murray > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sursound mailing list > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Company Number : NI635217 > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > Belfast BT88LL > > www.magikdoor.net > > +44(0)7555784775 > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190528/009dadc7/attachment.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190527/f7ae4d66/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190528/29bb1b2f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
